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Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Arthropod on Jul 18, 2004, 10:32 PM
TELEFALL TACTICS v1.0 by bloodbug2
Message me on Gunbound : XSoulEdgeX
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Hi there! It's me again, with some more info but for a very different matter than Raon. This guide will cover the telefall tactics and how it can affect the game. Before I used Raon, I used to practice my telefall mad skillz alot. Not that it seemed useful at first, but it was very fun. Later on I discovered how the telefall can affect your game by giving you a major chance of survival and alot of OMG WTF's, just like Raon and it's shotgun. So, guess I'm started, no?

WHAT WILL THIS USELESS GUIDE WILL COVER?
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1. The teleport itself
2. Bots that can telefall
3. Requirements
4. Cheap ass tactics using the telefall
5. Advanced telefalling(Teleslip, telebounce, just like Raon!)
6. Maps with good telefall opportunities
7. Endings and all
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1. THE TELEPORT ITSELF
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The teleport is an item, with some cheap delay for what it has to offer(adding 200 delay to your shot.) As with all items, the Teleport has to be shoot with shot 1 to minimize the delay for a good chunk(100), so you got less delay is your turn faster.

WEIGHT : Heavy(a beam of light, heavy? Wtflol softnyx XD)
USES : Get out of a dangerous position, or moving far distance to give you an advantage.
FULL SCREEN TELE : As with all heavy shots, 79 is one screen.
SLOTS : Two slots :(
HOW TO KNOW SOMEONE USE A TELE : As with all keen observers of the obivious(sp?) who will tell you "He's gonna tele!", a bot using a teleport will have a different shooting stance, giving you a little time to think what to do next.
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2. BOTS THAT CAN TELEFALL
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Myself, I know of only three bots that can telefall :
-The cakebot(JD, nerfed cheap machine or whatever)
-The nak(assbot)
-The aduka(useless purple thingy)

It is rumored that all bots can telefall, but I prefer those three, since it's easier. Now the telefallers, ranked :

1st - JD
The JD got a great movement range, allowing it to fake suicide faster than the other two. It also got an nice upwards angle, although limited.

2nd - NAK
The nak is slow to get to the ledge, but once he get to it, he soars of usefulness(more on that later)

3rd - ADUKA
Ranked third only because the telefall doesn't really help him alot.
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3. REQUIRMENTS
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1. Well, you need teles(XD)
2. A good telefall map, such as Sea of Heroes or Nirvana B(or Metamine B if you're into teleslip)
3. Having picked one of the three recommended telefall bots.
4. Being in a 4v4 game so lots of people can say OMG WTF HAX to you.
5. Having DRAG(very important!)
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4. CHEAP ASS TACTICS USING THE TELEFALL
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I will rank the tactics in three criterias

-How hard it is
-How useful it is
-OMG WTF HAX spammage

The tactics are divided by maps.

SEA OF HEROES
Tactics : 3
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The faked suicide(AKA geronimo!)
Difficulty : 1/5
Usefulness : 4/5 if nak/aduka, 2/5 if JD
OMG WTF HAX? : 1/5

Very useful, but will not catch attention alot. If you're a nak, then this trick is your best friend. It will provide you some cover and since your shot 2 goes inside walls, you will be oine mean killing machine, IF THE ENEMY IS ON YOUR SIDE! If not, the shots will be harder to land. It's about the same for aduka and it's tracers. For JD, it's good for making killing pits.

HOW TO DO?
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Firstly, you gotta be on either big ledge on the sides of Sea of Heroes. When you're about to the ledge, start to charge up your tele, but do not full it. Then, run off the ledge and when you're about at the level of your hide(diagram later), simply do a quick swipe to full your meter. You will bounce off the roof and go into the little cave! OMG WTF HAXOR PR0!
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The center race(AKA wtf is this idiot doing)
Difficulty : 0.5/5(if you fail it, well...)
Usefulness : 1/5(only provide very good cover)
OMG WTF HAX? : liek teh 3/5(people not expecting it will be surprised)

It's simply digging off the little cave in the previous trick then teleing to the little center spire. No usefulness whatsover, but you can amaze the crowds.
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The haxxorfalling(AKA omg pro tele omg)
Difficulty : 5/5
Usefulness : 2/5
OMG WTF HAX? : 5/5!

Arguably the best trick in this map. This one is so difficult you're better do it from the little cave in the first trick, so the difficulty drops to 1/5 but so does the OMGness. This one is so cool to see, you will be litterally spammed to death. But there's a catch, it only work with cake :(

HOW TO DO?
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Firstly, you gotta be on the left side of Sea of heroes. or it won't work! With cake, go to the ledge, then charge up as usual, but check the little outcropping of dirt at the end of the ledge. It's where you're gonna tele! Fall off, then turn in the direction of the ledge. Due to a bug, your angle will bob up, like you were on a slope, so when you think it's okay, shoot your tele(full bar) You should go right in the little hole and stay there! OMG WTF!
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DIAGRAM OF SEA OF HEROES
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Holy cow, I reckon I've did the graphic, but it looked so ugly I deleted it. gotta wait for the images :(
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NIRVANA B
Tactics : 1
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Suiciding relocation
Difficulty : 1/5
Usefulness : As useful as a teleport can go, but you can't really tele good on this map
OMG WTF HAX? : 1.5/5

Since you can't really tele where you want in this map, I've devised this way to teleport where you want.

HOW TO DO?
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Simply charge your tele, run off the ledge and tele on a rock where you want, or your teleport will fly off, and you too  :ph34r:
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DIAGRAM OF NIRVANA B
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Coming soon when I'll grab an image of the stage, since it's not symetric just like Sea of Heroes.
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METAMINE B
Tactics : 1
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Teleslip
Difficulty : 0.0001/5(the 1 is if you got (very very very)poor sight and poor motor skills)
Usefulness : Again, as far as a teleport can go.
OMG WTF HAX : Prolly not much, but maybe 2/5

Since those dirt thingies block your tele you gotta shoot an hole and tele from the hole, right? Failed...

HOW TO DO
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Simply shoot at the thin land thingies with your tele. You will slip, just with the mines <_<. I'm beggining to think the teleport is raon's bro.
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DIAGRAM OF METAMINE B
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Same there, I've did it, but XD it looked WAY too ugly.
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5. Advanced telefalling(teleraoning? XD)
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Well, we can't call those tricks "telefalls", but they tricks with teleports. The good things with them is that they are universal, you can use them on every map.

TELESLIP
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You launch your tele at a thin section of land, you will slip that section at land on top of it. See my raon guide for in-depth explanation since it's basically the same thing.

TELEBOUNCE
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If it is not thin enough, you will just appear in the sky, below the ground you wanted to slip and fall. See my raon guide for in-depth explanation since it's basically the same thing.
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6. THE MAPS FOR TELEFALLING
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-Nirvana B
-Sea of heroes
-Metamine B

I also heard there was a trick on Meta Mine A, if anyone would be kind enough to PM me if they know it, please do so so I can add it, you will be granted credits, of course.
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7. ENDINGS(holy cow about time <_<)
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Yeah, that's the endings of my second eye-opener guide, hoping that helped you to amaze the crowds with crazy teleing YET AGAIN!

8. FUTURE PROJECTS FOR GB GUIDES
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Oh noes! I haven't listed this one in my table of contents! I'm gonna get fired! :ph34r:

VERY FUTURE PROJECTS
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Kamikaze guide(holy cow...)

And that's all!

I hope this guide won't get BANNINATAGED  :ph34r:  because of the sheer uselessness, although it can be VERY useful at times.

©Copyright 2004 bloodbug2
MINE, you see? XD

END by bloodbug2(Opening the eyes of players on the darker aspects of the Gunbound strategy, everyday!)

Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: LearningD1 on Jul 18, 2004, 10:59 PM
:o finally a tele fall guide  :D  thanks
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Boland on Jul 18, 2004, 11:07 PM
Very cool guide. I've never tele'falled but I've been hearing about it and I'm bound to try it sooner or later. You shuld post sort of "How to" screenshots.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Arthropod on Jul 18, 2004, 11:08 PM
It's in the making, Boland.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: blarg on Jul 18, 2004, 11:37 PM
Oh man....LOL we need to try those sometime blood.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Nic01 on Jul 18, 2004, 11:54 PM
...so innacurate at some parts that I want to smack you. (lightly)

ALL bots can telefall. The instant shooting ones are the easiest.

You don't need to dig a cave to get to the lower overhang. Just tap movements.

Haxxorfalling in Sea of Hero is right side, works with JD and Armor.

 
Nirvana B... why'd you even go over this?

 
You also missed quite a few telefall maps <_<  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Arthropod on Jul 19, 2004, 10:12 AM
No sorry, but the haxxorfalling is in the left side...I'll just take screens sometimes.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Metal on Jul 19, 2004, 11:20 AM
EDIT: Sense imageshack blows, refreshing your browser window may help you see the pic.
All I am seeing is the basics of telefall and there are a few things in this guide that are misleading, especially the telefall bots you put. You should put all bots and place the level of difficulty by each one. Some bots have extremely fast shots such as lightning or nak while others have extremely slow shots like raon or boomer.

Important Note: Your tele must hit land before you fall off screen or you will be a victim of the flashing death. The flashing death is where it shows you at the telefall spot for certain people but when the next turn is passed you die and float up.
MOST IMPORTANT NOTE: Telefalls are more successful when you drag and shotgun.
I will first start off with Meta Mine:
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/8329/Telefall1.jpg)
The spot where I am and the little ledge above me are perfect spots. Now the only way to reach these spots is to fall through a hole near the wall. Sense the patch several months you can't telefall there by dropping off the ledge. You will die before your tele reaches it. There is a slight chance that your telefall shot glitches and you land there after falling off the screen but those are on rare occasions.

As you can see this is a very useful spot to hide out because you can shot 2 or SS people from far below. Even if they start digging and ruin your shot you will have plenty of time to plan a new strategy. Btw, I kicked Trip's ass. B)

Now for Metropolis:
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/3883/Telefall2.jpg)
Usually this spot serves no use at all except for humour and amazment but it may be a good place to jump to before SS death if you have nak or aduka.

Cozy Towers B:
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/4548/Telefall6.jpg)
Same as Metro.

And now... my favorite map!...

SEA OF HERO!!!!!!!!!!
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/3576/Telefall5.jpg)
Now... people ask "how in the magical house of blues clues do you get there?"
Well, this is very advanced. You must be on the far right side or on the right bottom ledge to do this.
To give you a good idea of what angle you should use practice with armour by setting your angle just out of true angle. Tele when you see your angle meet the hole. For bots with small angle ranges such as lightning and boomer you must tele right as you pass that front nob thing.
This is extremely usefull in game with nak, aduka, and lightning. In a 4v4 there is always 2 people on the far left so you should have a target.

Note: If you cheat by shooting from that bottom left ledge to the side of it you are a loser and will not go into the land.
Another Note: To go farther into the land use more teles.

Now...
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/8691/Telefall3.jpg)
This is a useful spot for nak, aduka, and lightning. To get here drop off onto the bottom ledge then SHOTGUN your tele as soon as you pass the ledge. If you wait then you will die. The only way to get here from the far left and right ledges is if the teleshot glitches. Usually you will die before the tele hits.

If you wanna go even farther...
(http://img17.exs.cx/img17/5685/Telefall4.jpg)
You must have a bot with a wider anle range to get here. Yes, wider than Cake's crappy edited angle. Fist you must tele to the sword handle. Once that is done move slightly to the edge. Move bit by bit. Each time you move make sure that your highest angle will be able to deliver a shot straight to where the sword handle peice and the sword come together. Also make sure you have another tele.

There are many MANY other telefall spots but these are my favorite. Each map has a telefall spot. It may require some digging but each map has one. Try experimenting on each map.

PS: Practicing telefalls in Jewel is for losers. You should suffer from your failures.

Well I think that's it. Bye.

*teles away*
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: creedo on Jul 19, 2004, 04:50 PM
the time and effort metal put into the reply kinda shames bloodbug, tho props to bloodbug for wanting to make a guide in the first place... others hadn't bothered until now.

One more telefall, and I don't know how it was done but maybe it's really easy and I just suck:

Fall through a manmade pit on one of the thin arms on metamine side A.  You aim the teleport about halfway down the long orange support cone (you know, the thing with stars on it).  Using sate, the guy who demonstrated it was able to cling magically to the side at a steep vertical angle, even though seems impossible.  Whenever I tried to imitate it, I predictably fell down and died, since I can't see how you can cling to an upside down slope.

From that position he was able to hit the left side of metamine pretty nicely.  We tried playing serious, and in order to take him out my buddy had to make several high angle boomer holes to dig down to him.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Toon-Ryu on Jul 19, 2004, 05:35 PM
What about Cave? I telefall there all the time. Simple be on the right or left, charge up, fall as usual, and try to aim so you don't suicide. This is for nak only though. =P
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: SLdK on Jul 19, 2004, 05:44 PM
No its not for nak. As everybody who plays with me knows i Do special things there NOT using nak or an ass bot for that matter. :)
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Nic01 on Jul 19, 2004, 05:50 PM
*looks at Trip's outfit*

Those pictures are... quite old.

gj though :)

Hmm, 11.0, 11.2, and 11.1 o_O
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Bravodor on Jul 19, 2004, 06:04 PM
I would never risk a tele fall in anything but a screw around game.

unless the map was cave and I had a nak.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: i pood me knickers on Jul 19, 2004, 06:37 PM
Quote...so innacurate at some parts that I want to smack you. (lightly)

ALL bots can telefall. The instant shooting ones are the easiest.

You don't need to dig a cave to get to the lower overhang. Just tap movements.

Haxxorfalling in Sea of Hero is right side, works with JD and Armor.

 
Nirvana B... why'd you even go over this?

 
You also missed quite a few telefall maps <_<
I was gonna post this. Cave A and B are very usefull for nak
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: DarkTex on Jul 19, 2004, 07:16 PM
Yea i've seen someone telefall into the mouth of the dragon in one of the Cave levels and uses his Nak(or assbot) to shoot at us with shot 2 lol

I've never done telefalling but i plan 2 do it sometime :rolleyes:  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: FroXXX on Jul 19, 2004, 08:31 PM
Nice guide Metal!  I especially like the position of the Meta Mine screenshot :-)

ODDITY!™
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Arthropod on Jul 19, 2004, 08:49 PM
Well people gotta understand I'm no genius, I type all my guide on top of my head, then add things. I surely know it's lacking some things, I said "oh no I missed cave!" after I wrote that thing.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: DarkTex on Jul 19, 2004, 10:32 PM
uhhhh i tried telfalling couple minutes ago in the cave level(didnt turn out 2 well)i didnt hold it down b4 i jumped lol :P  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Metal on Jul 19, 2004, 10:44 PM
QuoteWell people gotta understand I'm no genius, I type all my guide on top of my head, then add things. I surely know it's lacking some things, I said "oh no I missed cave!" after I wrote that thing.
I know blood. I just rather a telefall guide tell more about telefalling. It is best to make a telefall guide when you have a great knowledge about the art.

PS: Message me on oMETALo. i must see your raon skills. B)  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Arthropod on Jul 20, 2004, 12:01 PM
At least Raon is something I know alot about, I';m gonna update the damn thing today too  <_<  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: DarkTex on Jul 20, 2004, 10:10 PM
yay i telefalled successfully a couple a times today with the help of oMetalo and others(sorry i couldnt remember ur names) :D  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Drknecro on Jul 20, 2004, 10:11 PM
Quoteyay i telefalled successfully a couple a times today with the help of oMetalo and others(sorry i couldnt remember ur names) :D
congratumalations u achieved godism  <_<  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: i pood me knickers on Jul 21, 2004, 01:01 AM
Telefalling really is fun.
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: andrewcleung on Jul 21, 2004, 01:11 AM
I like ur guide. Can i use it on my site?
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Tooya on Jul 21, 2004, 01:06 PM
which guide are you talking about?  bloodbug or metals? (<_<)
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: SpookyPanda on Aug 28, 2004, 03:17 PM
wonder if anyone will ever take the time and make a flash video on how to do it, others might have found some telefall guides confusing =/ I learned from my friend and then my other friend did the tag trick (trico as tag and in loading click in the middle and your bot does something) so I spent hours searching for that and I ended up running into gbsector and learned the trick but their telefall guide made me have to read it like 5 times to get what it meant, and then I kept losing gold and gp (and my winning rate, also my average hit) so it went down to 38!!!!!!!!!11 (went down like 9%) so I finally started practicing in jewel so I wouldnt lose gold and that gay guild "Ataris" cant even do telefall, they just cut through the ground XDDDD and they posted the pic on gb (fuk, I was in it ***Embaressing***) and then I quit because kevin (guild leader) pissed me off because I wasnt tking on the guild noob account, so thats why I quit, and then I tried to join Oddity XD but it was like a day and they didnt accept yet or something.... =/ but anyways if you dont know about gbsector the URL is gbsector.com (I think) and just click on Tips and Tricks and it should show a few things, and im kinda glad gb reset the winning rate things cuz I can get back up again so people wont call me a noob anymore because of my w.r oh and btw my username is my gunbound sn and some well known hacking sites (used to make gb cracks) are gzp or gods-united, but there is no use to start that, tsearch (biggest gb cracking tool there is) is blocked but those phags will keep trying and they will just keep getting patched up, anyways im gonna go back on gb and this thread is probably dead and I am just posting this wich probably only a few people will read it or they will see it and not read it from how long it is, lol

AIM : ask me on gb please
GB : SpookyPanda (add me quick, I change my name alot) I might run into this place a few times reading guides and stuff... bye?
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Satoshi on Jun 27, 2005, 04:12 AM
I have telefalled before, but this totally blows the things I have done out of the water. :3

SpookyPanda, I'll show you how to on GB, a Flash movie is near-impossible to make look like a telefall (accurately).
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: thesoulofthefallen on Jun 28, 2005, 04:20 PM
Lol cool. But knowing me ill probly screw all these ups

:P  
Title: Telefall Tactics Guide v1.0
Post by: Tenki on Jul 14, 2005, 03:03 PM
uh.. u have to take lag into account..

if your comp/connection lags a little, your char will fall alot more before the tele is actually shot.

also, for a successful telefall, the tele has to hit the land before your char falls off the level. if you do a slow shot (low power) then your tele won't reach the land in time and you'll die.