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Title: Need your help.
Post by: dovoxove on Nov 01, 2004, 11:32 PM
Can you list out any bug or hacks that are spreading in the game so far?
Has to be something you've witnessed or exprienced. And i sort of need a proof.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 02, 2004, 12:15 AM
I had this Delay and angle hacker. Shot for more than 10 turns in a row =/

(http://img30.exs.cx/img30/1689/GunBound0000227.gif)


Edit: Its Dickface. His avatar too anyway.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Auga on Nov 02, 2004, 12:24 AM
the avatar is not hacks but yea he went first all the way, I took so many pics of him shooting me again and again and again =(
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 02, 2004, 12:26 AM
Well, we're supposed to get the avatar a month or 2 ago after GB got closed down for a few days. The account also had to be made at a certain date. I am certain that that avatar is impossible to get at that rank.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: CommunistBus on Nov 02, 2004, 12:38 AM
Don't forget that OMGAdukaPRO guy. All the proof you need is the 5000 DK's he gets every day due to his Aduka SS one hit kill hack thingy.

Shaft maybe he just hadn't ranked up the account. I've got a chick account with those as well.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: sober on Nov 02, 2004, 12:39 AM
Not really, if he doesnt play he doesnt up his rank.. Just a possibility though
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Post by: Shaft on Nov 02, 2004, 01:00 AM
Oh look, same guy. He said it himself. Read the chat box. =X

(http://img25.exs.cx/img25/7403/GunBound0000228.jpg)
Title: Need your help.
Post by: uberbacon on Nov 02, 2004, 01:04 AM
QuoteCan you list out any bug or hacks that are spreading in the game so far?
Has to be something you've witnessed or exprienced. And i sort of need a proof.
no screenie worth posting but..
when using Dual+ with knight, it kinda screws up. in midair, a preshot is coming and just shooting air. then it goes on like usual but you cant seem to hit anything else than air with the other shot (in the dual+)

its 7am and im going to bed, i might make myself more clear tomorrow
Title: Need your help.
Post by: kiwibonga on Nov 02, 2004, 01:04 AM
Don't pick out the details, post new examples...

Anyways, there's a new aimbot which is selling on ebay right now called DragonBot, it's recent, undetected, and much more accurate than the old ones (that's what I could gather from the rumors).

Anyways what gunbound needs is to prevent things from being drawn over the game window, assign random memory addresses for game data (mobile location, power, etc) which change periodically, basically a system that prevents a reliable hacking tool to be developed and distributed...
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 02, 2004, 01:05 AM
Quote
QuoteCan you list out any bug or hacks that are spreading in the game so far?
Has to be something you've witnessed or exprienced. And i sort of need a proof.
no screenie worth posting but..
when using Dual+ with knight, it kinda screws up. in midair, a preshot is coming and just shooting air. then it goes on like usual but you cant seem to hit anything else than air with the other shot (in the dual+)

its 7am and im going to bed, i might make myself more clear tomorrow
This is similar to the A.sate bug i guess. No screenie needed for that.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: uberbacon on Nov 02, 2004, 01:07 AM
is there a reason why new stuff like events are coming, but nothing is ever made to fix the lag problems?
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 02, 2004, 01:48 AM
QuoteI had this Delay and angle hacker. Shot for more than 10 turns in a row =/

(http://img30.exs.cx/img30/1689/GunBound0000227.gif)


Edit: Its Dickface. His avatar too anyway.
like this

(http://img43.exs.cx/img43/5557/worsthackerever.jpg)
Title: Need your help.
Post by: dovoxove on Nov 04, 2004, 05:37 PM
I'm guessing there aren't any other problems with the game then?
I'll close this thread later today.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Auga on Nov 04, 2004, 06:46 PM
No, no, this should be pinned and used again if more problems are to come up.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: happylight on Nov 04, 2004, 09:18 PM
See here: http://gunbound.loquarium.com/pic/bug.avi (http://gunbound.loquarium.com/pic/bug.avi)

Neither of us were hacking (I know the other person). The turns would just randomly switch every half a second. If you noticed my cursor movement, I was dragging like mad 'cause the turns were over so fast that I wouldn't get my turn.

This happened randomly in a game. And we couldn't replicate it.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 04, 2004, 10:19 PM
Like, the turns suddenly switch for no reason? I agree. I just had that.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: kaze on Nov 04, 2004, 10:38 PM
ooh you shouldent hack! thats not good =(((
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Post by: mezzaninex on Nov 05, 2004, 12:05 AM
Ice SS is still only reducing 5 defence! the general impression is that it did -20 before the defence reduction was shown on screen.
is it supposed to be -5 and always has been? or am i correct in assuming that this is a glitch?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/m0untaindew4u/GBGL/broken_ice.png)
its only about as damaging as shot 2 (if not, less), with the same effect. however, it has more delay.

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also, i have witnessed (several times) the delay bug. it made the game unplayable for all but two people, and was very unfair.

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for hacks i found a guild that were all aduka. they would SS and the last person the SS hit would instantly die! thier average hit damages were insane, as shown by this pic:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/m0untaindew4u/GBGL/hackers_guild.png)
"Average hit 761502"!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 05, 2004, 12:23 AM
Yes, the Ice is still that...well. The SS is still broken. Even if its gonna be made weaker, at least make it do more damage...
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 05, 2004, 12:56 AM
I'm starting to see this hack around a lot. Its the infinate turn delay hack or whatever its called.

(http://img111.exs.cx/img111/7048/delayhacker.th.jpg) (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111&image=delayhacker.jpg)

this game it was the violet wand. who was hacking. I'm surprised a bit.

(http://img111.exs.cx/img111/3760/delayhacker2.th.jpg) (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111&image=delayhacker2.jpg)

and here it was the Ruby wand that was hacking.

Sad part is, that it took both of them like 5 minutes to kill us. They sucked badly.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 05, 2004, 12:57 AM
Yeah, its starting to become a trend....
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Post by: kaze on Nov 05, 2004, 01:00 AM
aww i hate the delay hack... but i wouldent mind getting my hands on one... <drewl>.. mmm pie..... =D


huggiez //shiroi
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 05, 2004, 01:04 AM
QuoteYeah, its starting to become a trend....
Funny thing is, you would expect people to use them on n00b accounts, bu tthese guys are just going full out on high ranked ones.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 05, 2004, 01:05 AM
Which brings up a question for me

1) Are these hacked accounts? Or just dumbasses asking to be banned?
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 05, 2004, 01:07 AM
QuoteWhich brings up a question for me

1) Are these hacked accounts? Or just dumbasses asking to be banned?
I'm leaning towards hacked accounts. But hey, I could be wrong, they could be just idiots begging to be banned.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: kiwibonga on Nov 05, 2004, 05:09 AM
Hmm... There's more and more aimbotters... I mean it's quite obvious when power users with a phoenix and a clown suit on a noob account come in my room and can't miss a single shot... They've been on a little ebay trip...

There really needs to be something done about this... Over 5 of them in 2 hours isn't good...

I know someone who has that aimbot... But getting it from him would be hard... I mean, he bought it on ebay... And the rumors are true, it can do everything, from nak shot 2 underground predictions to Trico 3in1, etc...
Title: Need your help.
Post by: RSXkiller on Nov 05, 2004, 07:59 AM
ammm... the lagging problem; that's annoying .

and.. are you really a GM ?
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 05, 2004, 08:59 AM
Yes he is. We have seen slight changes that are related to the things we have told him. Most of the Veteran GBHQ members can vouch for this.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: -SF- on Nov 05, 2004, 09:28 AM
QuoteI'm starting to see this hack around a lot. Its the infinate turn delay hack or whatever its called.

(http://img111.exs.cx/img111/7048/delayhacker.th.jpg) (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111ℑ=delayhacker.jpg)

this game it was the violet wand. who was hacking. I'm surprised a bit.

(http://img111.exs.cx/img111/3760/delayhacker2.th.jpg) (http://img111.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img111ℑ=delayhacker2.jpg)

and here it was the Ruby wand that was hacking.

Sad part is, that it took both of them like 5 minutes to kill us. They sucked badly.
i've seen the ruby wand yesterday he wasn't bad, never missed a shot but then again it was just melee shots, but in my game i doubt he was hacking

as for the ultimate aimbot i still have my doubts, from digging arounds the hacking forums, its suppose to exist but i have my doubts on the Trico 3 in 1, Nak Shot 2, Turtle SS. if the person was smart enough to derive an aimbot to calculate all this without using any "offsets" (according to the ebay description) would keep it amongst themselves, let alone 3 perfect formulas.... most of the formulas gurus can't even master turtle SS perfectly, and why haven't we seen any pictures of Trico Shot 2 or any Turtle SS shot, i believe its pure bs, the boomer hookshot, i believe its possible, the formula for the against wind is pretty simple actually
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Noelani on Nov 05, 2004, 11:52 AM
Other than the extreme amount of script-kiddies/bored kids with programs, I've really seen no glitches.

I was actually talking to you recently about my hatred towards such people.

-And yes, he really is a GM. I've played/sexed him on his GM account.  :heart:  
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Shaft on Nov 05, 2004, 12:22 PM
Yes, I've seen her and her screenshots with him before back then.  
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Post by: jegitoe on Nov 05, 2004, 12:30 PM
QuoteI had this Delay and angle hacker. Shot for more than 10 turns in a row =/

(http://img30.exs.cx/img30/1689/GunBound0000227.gif)


Edit: Its Dickface. His avatar too anyway.
lol i know him
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Post by: Glamous4eva on Nov 05, 2004, 01:45 PM
This guy kept shooting during our turns..but hez got bad aim..
(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/8518/hacker.jpg)
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Post by: shotgunkelly on Nov 05, 2004, 04:08 PM
QuoteYes, I've seen her and her screenshots with him before back then.
Yeah, there's been more delay hackers these past 2 weeks than I've seen in the past 10 months I've been playing.

Some other glitches, though I have no screenie or proof:

-  When the room lags but then recovers, sometimes somebody loses a turn.  It happened to me twice that I remember.

-  I've seen the "delayed death" glitch more than once on a score game.  The guy is for all practical purposes dead, but he stays on the turn queue for 2 or 3 turns.  Then suddenly flies off, as if suddenly killed (although no one has touched him/her).

-  At end of a score game when the losing team has just been reduced to 0 lives, the game should end.  But there is an extra shot that has to be made to actually end the game.  Is this a glitch?  Sometimes the room hangs at this point.

- And everybody knows about lagged games, I guess, that's my #1 beef with the game.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 05, 2004, 05:56 PM
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QuoteYes, I've seen her and her screenshots with him before back then.
Yeah, there's been more delay hackers these past 2 weeks than I've seen in the past 10 months I've been playing.

Some other glitches, though I have no screenie or proof:

-  When the room lags but then recovers, sometimes somebody loses a turn.  It happened to me twice that I remember.

-  I've seen the "delayed death" glitch more than once on a score game.  The guy is for all practical purposes dead, but he stays on the turn queue for 2 or 3 turns.  Then suddenly flies off, as if suddenly killed (although no one has touched him/her).

-  At end of a score game when the losing team has just been reduced to 0 lives, the game should end.  But there is an extra shot that has to be made to actually end the game.  Is this a glitch?  Sometimes the room hangs at this point.

- And everybody knows about lagged games, I guess, that's my #1 beef with the game.
yup, I have seen all of those.
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Post by: mezzaninex on Nov 05, 2004, 06:49 PM
ah, i forgot about the "game is over but you get one last shot of redemption" glitch. i actually like it, someone usually gets to get a little extra gold.

however--although not negative--it is a glitch worth reporting, and just about everyone can vouch for its existance.
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Post by: Shaft on Nov 05, 2004, 07:01 PM
I've won games like that, me being at the last turn. I thought I lived by some longshot, as the damage was pretty close to either kill me, or let me live for one more turn. I did alot of damage that sealed the game, though not killing my target, i strangely die after my shot.  
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 06, 2004, 11:20 AM
The Lose turn after lag glitch cost me more games then it helped me win >.<

Same with the opponents living with 0 health.
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Post by: 404Error on Nov 06, 2004, 12:19 PM
Random sidenote: I noticed that yesterday there was only ONE poweruser botting room in zone 12, and 14 total botting rooms. Good job on banning botters, Dovo and the rest of GIS.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: Auga on Nov 06, 2004, 01:16 PM
Speaking of power ticket I have enough cash to buy one and it won't let me... And my old one is running out in 48 hours...
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Post by: kiwibonga on Nov 06, 2004, 01:30 PM
I think you need to wait for it to reach 0 hours before you buy another one.. Chances are it records the date the power ticket expires and not the number of hours left
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Post by: andrewcleung on Nov 06, 2004, 03:13 PM
Few days ago, I played against uberbacon, he said he saw my delay went up like crazy (i think he said to me that I got 8000 delay) Of course this cant be a hack since hacks are supposed to use against other ppl. So I think the delay is a glitch.

Moreover, I remembered that I saw a guy who got infinite life. Even the life bar reduced to 0, he just never die. He just keep shooting as if normal until my team's ppl (2v2) all died.
Title: Need your help.
Post by: -SF- on Nov 06, 2004, 03:39 PM
and of coures gay 1 hit KO hax its pretty easy to to know the ones doing it cuz they have high avg dmg but dont match their skill ahem (350+ missing 80% shots) and yes 1 hit KO can be used for your opponent to do it on urself so it seems like their haxing, so just be cautious about these people
Title: Need your help.
Post by: andrewcleung on Nov 06, 2004, 04:33 PM
Yeah, the first ones to chk are those that got over 500 average damage per shot.  
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Post by: Blake on Nov 06, 2004, 05:09 PM
QuoteRandom sidenote: I noticed that yesterday there was only ONE poweruser botting room in zone 12, and 14 total botting rooms. Good job on banning botters, Dovo and the rest of GIS.
You actually counted??!!! Wow...what a waste of time, but hey, I'm not going to tell you what to do. You should just leave the botter banning to the GIS tho  :rolleyes:, and even if you do search for them, hacking will never be truly destroyed  :(:.
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Post by: andrewcleung on Nov 06, 2004, 06:00 PM
Altogether this bug isnt in game, it affects as much as if it's in the game. Of course I m talking about verifying email address and IP address. It's just annoying.
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Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 06, 2004, 06:27 PM
QuoteAltogether this bug isnt in game, it affects as much as if it's in the game. Of course I m talking about verifying email address and IP address. It's just annoying.
1. Get a new email.

2. Make a new account.

From what i see your rank is Metal B.axe plus, thats like a months time of playing. If you are lazy, try and ask softnyx to transfer your stats to your new account.
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Post by: 404Error on Nov 06, 2004, 09:41 PM
Quote
QuoteRandom sidenote: I noticed that yesterday there was only ONE poweruser botting room in zone 12, and 14 total botting rooms. Good job on banning botters, Dovo and the rest of GIS.
You actually counted??!!! Wow...what a waste of time, but hey, I'm not going to tell you what to do. You should just leave the botter banning to the GIS tho  :rolleyes:, and even if you do search for them, hacking will never be truly destroyed  :(:.
I was waiting for a room to open so I could join. It doesn't take long to distinguish which rooms are botters. Leave the botter-banning to GIS? No shit?
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Post by: kiwibonga on Nov 06, 2004, 10:23 PM
Sigh... Calm down kids..
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Post by: shotgunkelly on Nov 07, 2004, 07:56 PM
Quoteand of coures gay 1 hit KO hax its pretty easy to to know the ones doing it cuz they have high avg dmg but dont match their skill ahem (350+ missing 80% shots) and yes 1 hit KO can be used for your opponent to do it on urself so it seems like their haxing, so just be cautious about these people
Yup, I forgot about the 1-hit KO hack.  It's still around, in fact I saw it a week ago.  The hacker can turn it on and off (he said) during the game, so it's off when other people shoot and on when he shoots.  Even a tiny scratch of -1 dmg kills his targets.  
Title: Need your help.
Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 07, 2004, 08:12 PM
Quote
Quoteand of coures gay 1 hit KO hax its pretty easy to to know the ones doing it cuz they have high avg dmg but dont match their skill ahem (350+ missing 80% shots) and yes 1 hit KO can be used for your opponent to do it on urself so it seems like their haxing, so just be cautious about these people
Yup, I forgot about the 1-hit KO hack.  It's still around, in fact I saw it a week ago.  The hacker can turn it on and off (he said) during the game, so it's off when other people shoot and on when he shoots.  Even a tiny scratch of -1 dmg kills his targets.
0mgadukapro is the one I see the most with that hack.
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Post by: -SF- on Nov 07, 2004, 09:28 PM
Quote
Quote
Quoteand of coures gay 1 hit KO hax its pretty easy to to know the ones doing it cuz they have high avg dmg but dont match their skill ahem (350+ missing 80% shots) and yes 1 hit KO can be used for your opponent to do it on urself so it seems like their haxing, so just be cautious about these people
Yup, I forgot about the 1-hit KO hack.  It's still around, in fact I saw it a week ago.  The hacker can turn it on and off (he said) during the game, so it's off when other people shoot and on when he shoots.  Even a tiny scratch of -1 dmg kills his targets.
0mgadukapro is the one I see the most with that hack.
oh man you should see a boomer n00b with it, we spent like 10 mins waiting for him to kill us like, took 6 shots in the same wind to hit us
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Post by: andrewcleung on Nov 07, 2004, 09:45 PM
And on yesterday and today, I saw there's imbalance teams but ppl say it's balance. When in the game, I saw ppl flying around with team damage penalty. I just puzzled. Now everytime and i start with inbalance, i hav to ask "is blah blah blah in our team?" And those ppl thought i was acting like an idiot because they dont know i saw the screens has like 1v3 or 5v3 those kinds of stuff.
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Post by: LearningD1 on Nov 07, 2004, 10:36 PM
QuoteThis guy kept shooting during our turns..but hez got bad aim..
(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/8518/hacker.jpg)
I don't know what's worse... the guy probably using a hack or two golden battle axes playing on a avatar on server against low ranked players
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Post by: Capnkj2 on Nov 07, 2004, 11:05 PM
Yes, Andrew is right-- once in a while, the game will start with 5 people on one team and 3 on the other. It acutally is still 4v4, but you can't tell who's really on your team. Does that make sense?

I also saw the infinite turn hack. I took a screenshot of who it was and can post it later if it helps. (I'm not on my laptop.)

Dual Plus using J.D and A.Sate sometimes appears to glitch-- one of the shots doesn't do damage-- especially A.Sate.

Raon Shot 2-- The mines can be shot through the land if it's thin enough. I'm not sure if this was supposed to like that or if it's a glitch.

And finally, I've seen people use a dual, followed by me using a shot 1, and then going after me-- in other words, their delay wasn't correct. This was of course in the avatar off zones. (I'm not sure if it's possible to do that or if it's a glitch.) I've even had this happen when I dualed before. It seems more common in 1v1 games too.

Biggest Problem: Lag. Which seems to be much worse whenever anyone leaves the game abruptly--especially on their turn. Why was the Auto-Kick feature removed from Gunbound? Can we get it back? If so, can it be re-worded to simply show who is lagging and not the lagger AND the game host?
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Post by: Cakensodomy on Nov 08, 2004, 12:53 AM
- To get 5 and 3 on a team, the host has to quickly hit change and start within like a millisecond. My friend was bored and made a little script that did it, to mess with me when I was doing private 3v3's... You can do it with humanly speeds, too. I got it to work around half the time. I've known about this for atleast a year and a half now ^^

- The dual thing pisses me off too. Its just a bug, my friend on his laptop in my room on a 1v1 had it happen. He started with a boomer SS, and I shot a 1. He shot a dual 2, and I hung on by a hair, but he had a turn before me. He had like 1500 delay compated to my 800, and it showed he had -700 or so. It mixes the + and - up sometimes, that is what it does. he got two duals in a row on me =P

- On meta mine, you can teleport inside the map. I don't have a pic, since I saw it before my last reformat and it wasn't worth risking transering a virus over. One of my friends can do this on meta, sea of hero, and he claims to be able to do it on dummy slope. I've done this a time or two on sea of hero by addident.

- If you bunge a body and a person, or two bodies on solo/tag, you get a doublekill

- Dualing with Ice shot 2 only gives -5 def sometimes

- Cakebot's SS sometimes deals no damage when it is ab obsious hit. The same goes for Trico's.

- Mage's SS sometimes deals 10-20 damage, even when the enemy has shields. It kills the shields but says it does -10... Meh...

- (not sure if intended) Lightning's SS requires enemy to be exposed to the sky (like, in a spot where the shot1 would hit) while it used to not need this, and the animation doesn't show that it would need this. This pisses me off when the enemy retreats underground with low health. This may be the same as cake and trico's SS bugs, since I've only needed to use it twice recently

- I saw some sort of bug/hack/exploit that allowed people to instantly move during other people's turns. I had some KFC dodging ice shots once...

- Sometimes wind over 25 will act like it is an an inverse side (<--- turns to --->)

I have quite a few that I can't remember quite off the top of my head. Sorry for no screens, I just saw this thread. I will take screens and edit them in as a I see a bug happen. Some of them are easy enough to test, or are well enough known, though.
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Post by: i pood me knickers on Nov 08, 2004, 02:00 AM
The botters tend to choose the avatar on servers, cody.
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Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 08, 2004, 02:01 AM
QuoteThe botters tend to choose the avatar on servers, cody.
they do, but doesn't mean that there aren't any on avatar off.  
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Post by: Shaft on Nov 08, 2004, 04:16 AM
Quote(not sure if intended) Lightning's SS requires enemy to be exposed to the sky (like, in a spot where the shot1 would hit) while it used to not need this, and the animation doesn't show that it would need this. This pisses me off when the enemy retreats underground with low health. This may be the same as cake and trico's SS bugs, since I've only needed to use it twice recently

Its intended to be like that. Its shot 1 and shot 2 fire bolts from the air in different angles to hit the target. The ss is just to make a shot 1 bolt hit all mobiles that are in the radius of the explosion.  
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Post by: 404Error on Nov 08, 2004, 09:28 AM
QuoteThe botters tend to choose the avatar on servers, cody.
Just as there were a shitload in av-off. :P
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Post by: ErrorSol on Nov 08, 2004, 10:06 AM
I just counted 12 in server 12. And thats only for power user room.