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Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Tooya on Jun 14, 2004, 03:01 AM
This isn't a repeate of Petroleum's favorite item topic (if it is, then deleate it :-/)

These two items do the same thing, they increase your shot's damage by 33% (at least I am assuming cannonball power is adding damage...), the only difference is blood takes away from your health (8%) with no delay, Power up adds delay (50) but no health.... so which do you value more, delay or life?

I am very aware this topic isn't as important as Petroleums favorite item, just wondering since these items dont get used *as* often, and they do the same exact thing...
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Strifel on Jun 14, 2004, 12:21 PM
I'd use powerup, the delay isn't that much anyways.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: zyad on Jun 14, 2004, 12:26 PM
I think powerup is better, since i would rather lose 50 delay than 8% health.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Papercut on Jun 15, 2004, 08:58 AM
Agreed. I'm not keen with the idea of health loss. I'd rather take the small delay. Though some people swear by Blood, that the 50 delay can kill you (which it can :lol:).
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Dissolute on Jun 15, 2004, 12:26 PM
All depends your mobile, high life mobile I'd use power up as the losses are less, but a low life mobile; power up's my choice.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: zyad on Jun 15, 2004, 12:44 PM
QuoteAll depends your mobile, high life mobile I'd use power up as the losses are less, but a low life mobile; power up's my choice.
err.. that didnt make much sense? did you mean on a high life mobile you would use blood?

i guess thats a good thoery, but i would still prefer the delay loss to the health loss...
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Dissolute on Jun 15, 2004, 12:55 PM
Uh no....

If you have 1000 health a 8% loss is 80 life no?
If you have 500 health   a 8% loss is 40 life.....

So which would you rather lose? 80/40? I would ratehr lose 40 to a mobile with already low life as I know thats its draw back
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: zyad on Jun 15, 2004, 01:33 PM
ok maybe i got it backwards, but i still dont think your original post makes sense, because you said you would use power up for both of them, but now you are saying you would use blood on a lower life mobile..

ehh, whatever.. maybe im just stupid...
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Zim on Jun 15, 2004, 02:02 PM
Depends on the mobile. If i`m playing armor i'll probably take the blood, since I dont wanna add to its already huge delay.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Bravodor on Jun 15, 2004, 03:22 PM
Bloods arent that usful when playing avantar on.

take a bot with 1000 health (pretty common) and add the 18% health bonus from the full gear, presto 1180 health.

now the user uses a blood, takes 8% of their life, 94.4, and adds 33% to the shot, lets use a boomer's damage 250-ish+the 30% gear +33% blood.

but then take into account that your opponents 50 defense will lower that damage by about half.

you damage is cut in half, so you might do 162-ish damage with a normal 2 shot, a blood only ups that to aobut 216-ish.

94.4-54=40.4-you lose more than the extra firepower deals.

you just dealt 58% the damage of a 2 shot to yourself, in exchange for an extra 54 damage.

avnatar off, they would be more useful, but not much, perhaps the only time I can think of is using one right after someone duals, you 2 shot +blood then go agian and dual, but agian it would work much better in avantar off.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: $niperwolf on Jun 16, 2004, 01:57 PM
it matters what mobile i'm using.  For lightning i use powerup, but for Bigfoot i use blood!

EDIT: 100post?  who cares...
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Figiri on Jun 16, 2004, 02:17 PM
If I'm using a mobile with low delay like Lightning or JD I would use Powerup, but if it was a slower mobile like Armor or Nak then I would use Blood.  

Blood also isn't that bad if you have an organic creature and are packing bandages.  You can definately out delay dual monkeys.

I have a question regarding Blood.  Can you kill yourself using it?  If so, do you get to take the shot before you die?

Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: CommunistBus on Jun 16, 2004, 05:27 PM
Bots worth using blood on

Armor - Hurts the hp a little more than I'd like but armor needs all the delay reduction it can get
A sate - Low HP bot = minimal hp loss from blood, combined with high damage = the perfect choice for using blood.
Mage- also a low HP bot with some good damage. Would take blood over a bandaid any day.
Lighting - Maybe O_o depends if I'm in the mood to deal with having to use a lightning.

Bots to use powerup on
Nak - Has a high delay but not as much as armor. Has the second highest hp in the game so blood really takes a lot out of the nak. I'd take the extra delay
Boomer - While boomer has a pretty low hp, it's also got crap for defense. It's delay is low enough that I would choose powerup.


Turtle, Trico, Grub, Ice = I'd rather have a bandaid
Bigfoot, Raon, JD = shovel plz
Aduka = who plays aduka anyway? Do blood and powerup even affect the damage from thor? Maybe if aduka had higher defense and more hp he would be playable in tag/solo. But then he would be too strong for score games. x_x
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Drknecro on Jun 16, 2004, 05:39 PM
i use trico... trico has low life.... blood
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: SLdK on Jun 16, 2004, 05:50 PM
Omni aduka's shots arent affected by blood or powerup it all depends on thor
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Dissolute on Jun 16, 2004, 08:59 PM
Yeah...which is disapointing either way aduka isnt good for powerup or blood both of which hurt the user
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: andrewcleung on Jun 16, 2004, 09:31 PM
Yeah, pretty sad for aduka fans (including me). I will go for blood, especially in 1v1 solo or tag. When both players r in red, u couldnt notice that it deducted 7% of ur health because ur health is already low! U can get urself prepared to give ur opp. a final blow.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Donga on Jun 17, 2004, 05:18 AM
I use blood, as i much rather play a "faster delay" game, rather than  "dealing out as much damage everysingle blow, not worrying about delay" game. So i tend to use blood. Blood is also the smart option in jewel, as life doesn't count. But i guess anyone with half a brain knew that.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Tooya on Jun 18, 2004, 02:13 AM
bahh for me I can't choose (thats why I made this topic), I normally play in 1 v 1 games, and delay is crucial for success, however health is just as important too, bahhh! its very hard to decide which to use (i sometimes will pick 1 of each ^^)
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Dissolute on Jun 18, 2004, 09:19 AM
In 1:1, 4 heals and a D+....You CANT go wrong there lol :P
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: Bravodor on Jun 21, 2004, 04:10 AM
3 teleports.

no one ever expects that.
NO ONE.


it works too.
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: el6uapo on Jun 21, 2004, 07:20 AM
When do you use the tele's tho? if you start far away, you tele close... and if you start close, you tele away? o.O  I can understand bunging situations, but that occurs once every 2 games for me... and i'm not a sg wh0re so i don't need to tele close
Title: Blood or Powerup
Post by: zyad on Jun 21, 2004, 09:30 AM
i have taken 2 teles and a dual (or dual +) before.  it was a 1v1 and the other guy was using sate, and i teled away. then he followed me.  he did this twice before i packed the second tele.  then he followed me, and i teled across the map again.  (he kicked me next game, lol )