I was just letting all of the fusioners know, we are not going to play Toaster in the 2v2 league, from now until further notice. The reason is this-
When Steve and I were 2v2ing them for the league, Heart0nFire was bitching about how I was using formula. Example:: When we were about to start, for the 2nd game, Heart said: "Great, a non-misser [referring to me] and a pro. [referring to steve]." I kept quiet, as I did not want to start a quarrel of some sort.
Then, we had an easily formulated wind (5 or 6, if I remember correctly.) And I dualed and hit one of them, and then they bitched about how formula is just as bad as an aimbot, and how it isn't fair. Heart even asked if they were allowed to make rules as to not use formula. What a faggot. But continuing, I kept hitting them, and they continuosly BITCHED about it, and then I finally asked whats wrong with using formula.
They then responded with "Well, it takes the fun out of the game." Steve says "Well God forbid I want to win", and then there is a silence.
Later, when it was our rules, Heart called steve and I hackers, because it was fucking 0 wind and fucking EASY SHOTS! We of COURSE dualed, and I missed, and steve hit, because he was boomer , and easy UHA 0 wind for booomer! And then close to steve's death [i died before him] he said that "OMG We are going to beat hackers!"
That brought me off of the fucking edge.
I asked,"How the FUCK am I a hacker?!?!"
Heart: "You are a wanna b aimbot... You put your graphs around you, get ur calculators out"
Me: "Who the HELL does that?"
A tiny bit of silence, and then MIKE [flipped] , of all people says
"get a life"
"get a girlfriend"
I am way too tired to type the rest right now. Steve, come in and post what to correct, because I don't remember everything word for word. God damnit, I wish I would have fucking screen shotted it.
*****NOTE*******
I just wanted to say that I did a ~500 damage SS and killed Heart and did not get a NS from the other team. That also pissed the fuck out of me.
*****2nd NOTE*******
Sorry for the language. I'm very pissed.
No reason to hold back on language. It's all good. And that just sounds bad. I thought Mike was a nice guy too. What a shame. -_-;
Damnit... i was very shocked about this also. i NEVER expected this from them.
I cant write much right now because i'm loading up wav files from karaoke... but i'll get back to this asap
Lets just make this a warning for us, not to play Toaster. Boy cot them. Lets see if we can get Palt to boycott them as well.... no one should tolerate that, no one. A guild battle is a respectful thing, not some crappy flame war. The shame goes to Toaster... <_< Thats my 2 cents, I will post more later, and will try to inspire GBGL to become a Theocracy... later
hey everyone... i've gotta get to bed soon... however, I need to get this off my back.
Before your guild battle, Spencer, i PMed Mike to see if we could guild battle him... and well, he said yeah. Nicely.
It frustrates me to see how they didnt compliment you on your shots. Tyler and I most definitely complimented the nS`Ters of their shots while we were playing during our guild battles.
I will make sure to speak to niklas about this also. It is important that he finds out. In fact, we should also complain about this... because this is improper conduct.
I do NOT respect toaster one bit. I will NOT respect them ever again either.
I thought they were a nice guild. But well, Mike, the guild leader, has shown us their true color.
Spencer, you're an amazing player man. Steve, you're an amazing player also.
We got this down in our pockets. Dont worry about them.
We're better... because we know we are.
They're low. We're not.
GG
http://www.gbgl-hq.com/forum/index.php?sho...post&p=1480 (http://www.gbgl-hq.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=149&view=findpost&p=1480)
Darnit... we dont have screen shots... =(
That would have been the BEST way to get it through to GBGL. But Kiwi heard it. Dovo heard it.
Anyway... what do we do? Where do we go from here?
A HA! I HAVE SCREEN SHOTS!
OF HIM NOT DISAGREEING WITH WHAT I SAID!
I TOLD HIM THAT THEY SAID THIS AND THAT... AND HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING!
ZOMG!
WE DO HAVE SCREENIES!
NOICE......
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what do we want to do about this though? its very important
thats gay, i bet he wouldve called me a formula user too, that game was prolly the one i had to leave =/. Thats just some bs to piss us off so taht we can't play well. Im really surprised flipped would say sometin like that. I thought he was a nice guy.... guess i thought wrong.
Yeah. I was playing okay, as I missed some of my shots, but my formula did help me on quite a few. All I remember is them BITCHING about me being formula, and it pissed the fuck out of me. I was so angry because Rich wasn't there, as he would have known what I was talking about, too. I still can't believe they did that. It's so fucking unbelievable.
yeah... i was shocked too. We gotta tell people to watch out for this. This is something that should be dealt with. I already told uberbacon. We'll see what he does from there.
naren told me to read this thread, so i guess i will despite it's private status ;)
solution: use the rating system. we don't ban people for being bad sportsmen unless then have a certain amount of negative rating. in addition, if they get this negative rating they will either find out that they gotta repair their style OR nobody will challenge them.
Replying to Spencer...
Pretty much everything you had posted was correct. The only thing that you missed were other comments they told us, but those aren't really important. I'll just post a few of the other ones that they said.
"you graph, you hack, you aimbot(I personally found that amusing),you have no skill, you need a calculator to hit..."
The list goes on and on.
wow... I think thats pretty pathetic for a good guild like theres to say that. Maybe there the ones using formulas too. I mean if they managed to beat you guys wouldnt they be hackers/ formulas users too? Because how would you lose if you were hacking?
My suggestion: Play them even more, the more losses we give them, the better. ;) There's always /mute. And like uber said, use the rating system.
The thing is ... they both positively rated me... I don't really know why.. Maybe it was because they both were bitching at me and I didn't really fight back until the very end...
I did rate them saying that they are extremely anti-formula.
that's a little weird because... mike postively rated me also. -_-
He probably is trying to make up for what he said :<_<: nt, but he still can't bring the respect we lost for toaster.
What is the second player's gbgl-hq user name? I know mike's of course. Not "heart" 's though....
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Sean and Niklas, thank you both for your emphasis on negatively rating the both of them. Great ideas.
His name is Hearts_On_fire. You can just go to the 2v2 League standings, Click on toaster, and scroll down until you see "Hearts0nFire" under GB name, and it will show you to the left.
Thanks spencer. I really want to flame toaster right now...
http://www.gbgl-hq.com/forum/index.php?sho...ost&p=78230 (http://www.gbgl-hq.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5168&view=findpost&p=78230)
in there...
but i dont want to sink to his level. -_-
QuoteSean and Niklas, thank you both for your emphasis on negatively rating the both of them. Great ideas.
Huh... I coulda swore I gave at least one of them a negativ-- oh wait. I was anonymous. -.-; Oops. Well, it got -'d anyways. :>
hahaha! awesome stuff. =D
Here's the chat... we spoke to them... i dunno how much clearer i could make this... =/
Hope that you guys can understand it...
The person talking is always the first person in the line of usernames that are listed
Mike: naren
Mike: o.o
Mike: naren hates me
Mike: =(
Tyler: we all do
Nars: =D
Mike: what do you want me to do tooya? honestly
Naren: honestly... you've lost my respect
Mike: i apologized
Naren: you made the mistake in the first place
Mike: i apologized to google
Ashley: people make mistakes o.O
Mike: you;re telling me in your life
Nars:: what is this all about?
Mike: you have never
Tyler: But what does apologizing do?
Mike: made a mistake
Mike: and been forgiven
Naren: i have NEVER insulted a persons life
Tyler: h/o need a cool color
Ashley: la la la
Naren: nor have i EVER told them to get a girlfriend
Naren: that's just wrong
Mike: dude its called a joke
Mike: we're always said that
Mike: *we've
Naren: a joke? who the FUCK jokes like that?
Naren: sorry... i didnt mean to swear...
Tyler: Some joke you got there Mike
Tyler: ...crap
Mark: wtf rose?
Ashley: >_<
Naren: that's unacceptable man...
Naren: you may have been joking...
Mike: and i apologized, what else do you seriously want me to do?
Naren: nothing
Tyler: Mike, how about this
Ashley: What I don't understand, correct me if I'm wrong, how is "get a girlfriend!" an insult? o.O
Mike: look at my info on gbgl >.>
Naren: ....
Mike: theres that
Naren: how is that NOT an insult?
Mike: and ill say it again
Naren: that's emphasizing that YOU have game
Tyler: what If I were to go to Tonks and tell her to get a better girlfriend... then later take it back saying I was jk and sorry
Ashley: I don't see how it is
Mike: im sorry for beiong a complete dick to fusion
Naren: and THEY dont
Naren: due to the fact that you have a girlfriend
Naren: better boyfriend*
Mike: dude
Ashley: Mmm
Mike: i made that joke
Mike: before i ahd a girlfriend
Ashley: I do love pussys :)
Naren: WTH?
Naren: BEFORE?
Naren: that was TWO DAYS AGO
Naren: ....
Mike: i meant
Tyler: (no to others he means)
Mike: ive been using it
Mike: >.>
Tyler: ... how hypocritical can you get, seriously
Naren: T -_-
Mike: easily
bback.
Blake: so..
Mike: if someone had said that to me
Blake: what's going on
Mike: i woulda laughed it off
Ashley: seriously so would I
Mike: with a basic "haha"
Tyler: Thats you
Ashley: just think of how many times we told Merq to get a girlfriend.
Naren: THAT'S MERQ
Tyler: To other people 'jokes' like that hurt
Naren: merq is NOT a part of my guild
Naren: i defend no one other than my guild members
Mike: ok toya, so do you want me to hate you
Tyler: (quits guild) What now Naren
Mike: because you always say "secks pls"?
Naren: wth? you have no reason to
Naren: wtf?!
Tyler: XD
Mike: no
Naren: tyler's my best friend
Mike: so tell me
Naren: my brother... tooya, you know that
Naren: i'd defend you anyday
Mike: what was wrong with a joke
Tyler: ...
Naren: did you say "jk" after you mentioned it?
Naren: and if you say yes... i'd like a screen shot
Ashley: since when do you have to say jk? o.O
Ashley: man...
Tyler: Whats wrong with calling your parents fucktards to their faces?
Mike: uh they;ll beat ur ass
Blake: no they won't
Blake: i own my parents, actually.
Blake: =D
Mike: lol
Blake: err
Blake: said too much
Ashley: =O
Nars: me too
Nars: blake stfu!
Blake: :X
Nars: =p
Naren: frankly, you can say as much as you want, mike
Blake: lol
Ashley: Blake, my friend, I think me and you should just stfu and get out of this
Ashley: and go bye byes.
Blake: No, I like confrontation =D
Tyler: All I am saying is, people desever a certain amount of respect.
Nars: include me on that
Ashley: rofl
Blake: stfu and flip for me, tonks!
Tyler: Guild battles deserve much more respect than playing randoms
Ashley: *flips*
Tyler: your playing eachother for skill
Tyler: not trying to get a damn rise out of someone
Blake: i agree with that much
uberbacon dovo is on
Mike: okay, and you can't throw around jokes?
uberbacon and banning people
Ashley: I thought it always was for FUN?
uberbacon so funny
Nars: =D
Naren: its also called common curtsy
uberbacon in channel
Ashley: -_-'
Blake: and calling insults is not the way to go
uberbacon people swear
uberbacon and get banned
uberbacon :D
Tyler: XD
Nars: rofl
Naren: roflmao, that's hillarious niklas
uberbacon i'll go v phdz now
Tyler: < Dovo
Blake: you just make the other players play worse
Blake: for instance today i played really well
Naren: exactly
uberbacon anyone played phdz yet?
Blake: against this
Blake: character
uberbacon he won a singaporean v tournament ;)
Blake: phantomd is pro <.<
Nars: perhaps if we say good things to him we get gold =p
uberbacon he's megapro
uberbacon :D
Mike: so once again, ill ask... what do you want me to do about it?
Blake: yea, he's in lord, is he not?
uberbacon FEEL
uberbacon brb!
Blake: meh
Blake: same difference
Blake: xD
Nars: they all suck
Nars: I'm the official champion
Tyler: Well you know wahat Nars
Tyler: I won a gbgl tournament
Tyler: ... once....
Tyler: <_<.... >_>
Mike: tooya....
Naren: lets get back on topic here
Nars: =p
Nars: I won
Mike: do you jsut want to hate me then?
Mike: i mean
Mike: i want to work this out
Mike: ive done what i thought was right and apolgized for the way i acted
Mike: but
Mike: i nkow its not enough
Mike: what do you want me to do?
Nars: send tooya flowers
Mike: i mean seriosuly
Naren: initially, did you think... insulting my friends... by saying that they didnt have lives...
Naren: was right?
Nars: roses, if you really care
Mike: uh no?
Mike: but haven;t you
Naren: no
Naren: never
Naren: i'm not a jackass
Mike: said things when you were pissed that you didn't mean
Naren: why the HELL were you pissed at them?
Naren: you had no reason to be pissed
Naren: so stop digging a hole for yourself
Blake: naren
Naren: yes?
Mike: because, i like playing people that don't use formulas, if u relaly want to get into it
Blake: that's not fair, everyone is a jackass sometimes
Naren: bah... alright... you're right
Blake: unless you live in a glass house
Nars: I wanna interfere too
Naren: like right now... i know for a fact that i'm being an asshole
Blake: no
Blake: just fervent on proving your point
Tyler: But does that mean you would put down people you know?
Blake: i understand both sides
Tyler: In a guild battle even?
Naren: aaah.. yes sir =)
Tyler: o.
Naren: bah... yeah...
Naren: you were playing for something in that game
Tyler: (say the wrong answer I'll nudge you)
Mike: *cough*
Mike: nudging is not on my msn
Mike: anyways
Blake: i'd poke fun at the other team at the worst...if they understood, i mean
Mike: back to
Mike: no, it wasn't right to say what i said
Tyler: =o
Nars: I'd like to mention that yes, flip really gets out of hand after losing
Tyler: Tonks = pro
Blake: ow.
Ashley: >: )
Nars: you really should work on that
Blake: well, he was fine after losing to us - <.<;;
Mike: i got caught up in the moment with my partener.... im not going to blame it on him, but his comments in the team chat didn't help my attitude..
Mike: but thats my fault
Blake: i think
Tyler: How do we nudge anyhow?
Blake: the best course of action
Ashley: Hearts really does get out of hand, he pisses me off alot
Ashley: BITCH
Tyler: Oh cool
Nars: well, he was after me and gill beat them - for staff thingy
Blake: messenger .
Ashley: TAKE THAT
Blake: all the way to the right
Tyler: =o
Nars: constructive criticism
Naren: you got caught up with your partner?
Naren: that's great
Naren: caught up with your partner...
Naren: sigh... -_-
Blake: ok
Mike: whats great?
Blake: best course of action in my mind
Blake: is...
Mike: explain it?
Blake: give him another chance
Blake: BUT
Tyler: sarcastically great
Naren: -_-
Mike: i told you im not blaming it on him at all
Blake: mike, promise to work on your attitude, since it seems to me people have been complaining about oyu
Blake: you*
Blake: i'm trying to mediate here <.<
Tyler: Blake, meditiate this!
Blake: too many fights in my life, it's changed me, don't worry about me ;)
Blake: ow
Blake: uhh
Blake: ok
Ashley: o.o
Tyler: Damn... =(
Mike: still dowsn't matter, all of fusion is currently in a ahte flip mood
Blake: :D
Nars: OMFG I JUST DISCOVERED!!!!!!
Nars: Shut
EDIT: I hope this helps! This post has been driving me nuts so I HAD to do something to it. -Capn
Tripple posting... damnit i hate it.
I didnt completel the chat all the way.. becaus eit wouldnt fit for some reason... but i have to get to bed now... its 1:30. I'll post the rest later.
take care
*couldn't make head or tail of what was just posted*
Let me try and fix it! Sorry steve.
god damn... it takes so long... i dunno how to do this... >_> haha.. i'll try again in a little bit..
Just delete all of the names except the first one... I started reading halfway through and quit b/c it was too damn hard... But I did get the jist of it.
i knowww... it takes so damn long to get it all deleted though! its a tedious process =P
oh well... i'll get to it in a couple =D
Fixed. As best as it's gonna be fixed. The lesson from all of this: MSN sucks and Word's search&replace feature owns your mom.
Hahaha, thanks very much man. You rule
thank you so much shere....
and naren, you are the best guild leader ever... you take care of us like no other... man, i'm lucky to be a part of this guild...''
mannn.........
Spencer,
Thanks very much man!!! =D You rule.
I cant tell you how much of an honor it is to be the Guild Master of Fusion. I've been so proud of the way Fusion has turned out... and I know that Alli can vouch for it too =D. You can ask her about it one day... Sometimes, when we're just walking around... eating somewhere... or... watching TV together... or even if we're just on the phone... I'd always randomly say... "Baby, Fusion has turned out to be so great..." and i'd continue on boasting about how pro you all are..
I, for sure, am the lucky one.
I cant thank each of you enough... for committing yourself to this guild.
I'm proud of you all so much...
And once again... I'm proud to be the Fusion GM.
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Man... I tell ya... I always try to brainstorm for new and improved things for this guild... Its always on my mind too. Thinkin about the cabinet... about events... karaoke... all of that... just to make it so that everyone will LIKE being committed to the guild.... and would WANT to stay... not just because they promised they would.
I want this all to be fun... and enjoyable... and unforgettable also... even if its "just a game" as many would say. Bah... but for some reason... to me its a bit more. We've all become extreme friends... always so chill with one another... and that's something no other guild has.
As you mentioned before, Spencer, I'm also proud of the fact that we each address one another by first name... just like we're friends... from school. Its awesome stuff...
Anyway, I guess this is enough... haha =P Thanks again Spencer. Your comments are really encouraging. =)
Take care everyone =)
I hope ya'll are enjoying as much as I am.
yeah man, you take care of us like your own children :P
But fusion is about to have another great thing happen! You will all know later, hopefully by the middle of next week.
Naren + Steve .... Don't tell! :lol:
hahaha =D Yes sir =D
Fun stuff... very VERY fun stuff
I just had a convo with mike. I thought I took screen shots, but I might have been pressing the wrong button, because I can't seem to find them. Oh well.
Basically it was him apologizing for everything. It was a normal apology, but then he said "I don't want a little mistake to ruin what we had before "
I was like...
LITTLE? Do you think that the mistake was LITTLE?
1) You insulted me for being a formula user
2) You called steve and I fake aimbots.
3) You did NOT stop your friend "HeartsOnFire" from bitching about us.
And then he went on and on.... But he said that he was willing to earn his respect back... And I told him that it would NOT be easy, and it was not going to happen any time soon.
Meh....
Hopefully things will clear up eventually.
I'm not giving him a chance to earn his respect.
He's done this to me before... when Aum/Fusion was starting up. I was talking about how we couldnt find 15 people to join the guild... so that we could put a forum up here on GBGL. He commented with something rude and disgusting.. about how toaster was better and blah blah blah... or something, i dont remember it well... but he offended me pretty bad.
Guild master to Guild master...
Hearing something like that from him... was a kick in the pants.
I wanted to strangle him.
He isnt getting another chance to earn my respect. That's final.
Yeah, thats exactly how I feel. I did not want to tell him right then because... Well I'm not sure. He's never getting my respect back. I guess I will not hate him forever, but he will never get my respect back.
Too much e-drama on Gunbound.
My 2 cents.
Ok, I did things again. :o:
Yeah so I hear you guys...tis a shame. I will not wrap Ashley into this, she still has my respect...unless I missed something. (To be honest I didn't read that whole chat yet either--took a while to reformat and I have to walk away from it for now.) In fact, Toaster members still have my respect, save Mike and HeartsOnFire...I think...but no guild battling and no 2v2 leaguing I can manage no problem.
EDIT: Omg the delete button is over there --->
Yeah, my respect for them (Mike / Heart) is gone. And make sure that no one battles against them.
QuoteToo much e-drama on Gunbound.
My 2 cents.
its all part of the GB life i guess =D