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Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Kitty on Jul 29, 2005, 11:16 PM
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Hell, this is GIS team.

We have made adjustments of many recent problems for smooth game play.

Enjoy the supplemented and more updated Gunbound.


 contents


1. J.Frog's SS damage adjusted

2. Item On/Off function added

3. to prevent entering the room to curse after being kicked out, the ID of kicked-out user automatically put under the
  kicker's mute list.

4. the problem of freezing after the game supplemented.

 eligilbe date

   August 1st 2005 16:00 - 16:30 pm (GMT +9)


We will always try our best,

thank you for your support

GIS team

Yuck. Here come all those lame dual only rooms again. Boo.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: LayneStal3y on Jul 29, 2005, 11:30 PM
omfg this is gonna pwn
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Namtiehxam on Jul 29, 2005, 11:47 PM
This is what a game in GBWC will now be like.

-Enter room.
-Autoready
-Host disables dual and dual+, re-enables them and chooses them, then starts.
-Start game with no items, as all other items besides dual and dual+ were disabled.


Right.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Satoshi on Jul 30, 2005, 12:07 AM
Quoteomfg this is gonna pwn
^
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Post by: Ramza on Jul 30, 2005, 12:25 AM
QuoteThis is what a game in GBWC will now be like.

-Enter room.
-Autoready
-Host disables dual and dual+, re-enables them and chooses them, then starts.
-Start game with no items, as all other items besides dual and dual+ were disabled.


Right.
Yep.. just like before. But now with more speed! Yeah baby!
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Tridav on Jul 30, 2005, 12:32 AM
I suddenly lost a huge amount of interest in playing the game.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Kitty on Jul 30, 2005, 12:46 AM
I've pretty much just quit GIS. The only reason I'll be on there is to make cash transactions, and talk to friends.
I'm on GPS now. You know, I'd rather deal with item disabling, all the morons, and the cash whoring, and have decent company/user relations. As opposed to GIS, with all of that but the last.
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Post by: kiwibonga on Jul 30, 2005, 02:07 AM
Dovo didn't call you back after cyb3rs3x? XD

Anyway, as everyone can imagine, there is a big hole under my desk now. Bonerific news.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: creedo on Jul 30, 2005, 02:09 AM
eh even when that trick was available in thor's hammer it wasn't used much and was avoidable.

While I've enjoyed all-items, I think a return to item disabling will be fine. I found that instead of using clever, interesting items, most people have taken advantage of all-items to just pack big heals and duals anyway.

I do think heals sort of balanced out the unfair high damages in the game, and that now with heals disabled I might find a lot more 2-turn kills ... we'll see if that ends up being shitty.

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Post by: kiwibonga on Jul 30, 2005, 02:20 AM
If the enemy can kill you in 2 turns, it means you can kill the enemy in 2 turns too... And with or without heals, that doesn't change much, if you die before your first turn, you can't use heals at all.

We just have to get them to nerf boomer, which is impossibly strong, far more than a-sate which has been the most annoying piece of crap on the face of gunbound since forever...

And there's the issue of higher ranks shooting last... That just doesn't make sense... We already get aimed at first by every noob in the room, adding to that handicap is just evil :P
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: zenithyoda on Jul 30, 2005, 02:28 AM
QuoteAnd there's the issue of higher ranks shooting last... That just doesn't make sense... We already get aimed at first by every noob in the room, adding to that handicap is just evil :P
Ditto


Item turn off will be nice, especially for the raon players like me who always seem to play against those damn teleporters....
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Post by: Namtiehxam on Jul 30, 2005, 02:30 AM
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And there's the issue of higher ranks shooting last... That just doesn't make sense... We already get aimed at first by every noob in the room, adding to that handicap is just evil :P
That's what probably pushed me to not give a shit anymore, more than anything else, really.

*is playing a stone hammer atm*
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Tweekins on Jul 30, 2005, 02:51 AM
=/

Unfortunately, I'm not particularly looking forward to dual/dual+ games again...  
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: sartre on Jul 30, 2005, 03:00 AM
the item off / on suxs

heal  is part of the game , only noobs or dumb guys say thats for noobs !
no more wind change ... : /


And so what ... lets go ... all play sate now !  
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: kiwibonga on Jul 30, 2005, 03:51 AM
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QuoteAnd there's the issue of higher ranks shooting last... That just doesn't make sense... We already get aimed at first by every noob in the room, adding to that handicap is just evil :P
Ditto


Item turn off will be nice, especially for the raon players like me who always seem to play against those damn teleporters....
-.- Lame raon user -.-
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Post by: LayneStal3y on Jul 30, 2005, 04:23 AM
hmmm people always find a reason to bitch ^.^
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Post by: Satoshi on Jul 30, 2005, 05:00 AM
No shit.  

"WAH WE MISS ITEM DISABLE!!!1111"
*Softnyx enables item disabling* (irony hax)
"WAH ITEM DISABLE!!1111"
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: ltlatimer on Jul 30, 2005, 05:17 AM
Lol, why is everyone complaining? Sure, for the people who've charged cash (which is probably almost everyone in this topic) have a right to whinge, but this is what I don't understand:

People were/are wanting thors hammer back. So why is it that everytime GIS make a move to make wc more like TH, there's a whole lot of bitching? Nuff said.

Personally, I'm giving it another chance now that I won't have to fight against bandaid whores.


[edit] Keep in mind I use the term 'everyone' quite loosley.
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Post by: rukmedes on Jul 30, 2005, 07:06 AM
[doHTML]<font style='FONT-SIZE: 500px'>WOO!</font>[/doHTML]

I'm so coming back.

DUAL DUAL DUAL <3

Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: JellyFrog on Jul 30, 2005, 07:47 AM
if they lower frog's SS to a point it sux, all i can see is GB:Thor coming back again:
Bunge Games in Ava On, n Aduka 2/ss Dual in Ava off.

there will be less variety of games compare to wht we have now.




its actually quite fun now playing bunge bots vs frogs.
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Post by: EatEmAlive on Jul 30, 2005, 08:41 AM
I personally didn't mind all items being on, remebering it is the same situation for all players, and there is strategy in choosing items.  

What worries me about the limiting of items, is that I am not sure how the auto-ready will now work.  Currently it auto-readies anyone that comes in after about 5 seconds.  However the players already have their chosen items pre-determined.  What happens if all or some of their pre-determined items may be disabled by the host?  Do they get a chance to now choose a new set of items (wasting time), or do they just get auto-readied without a full complement of items?

I can't see a happy medium here.  I would must prefer having all items on for all games, in order for the auto ready system to continue to work smoothly, and less wastage of time.

And yes when will they GET RID OF THAT DAMN TURN ORDER BASED ON RANK garbage.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: GujuSol on Jul 30, 2005, 09:08 AM
Oh well, I had just gotten used to having all items. TH is back. Wish they would at least put a limit on how many items you can disable, so there's still some strategy.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: 1nsanemofo on Jul 30, 2005, 09:49 AM
ahem.......

DALE DOBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: zenithyoda on Jul 30, 2005, 11:41 AM
Quoteif they lower frog's SS to a point it sux, all i can see is GB:Thor coming back again:
Bunge Games in Ava On, n Aduka 2/ss Dual in Ava off.

there will be less variety of games compare to wht we have now.



Aduka 2/ss games are still as popular as ever.

However, I would love to play some more bunge games. Last time i played some some fools had on team tele and tele. After that his own team bunged him.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: TonksLT on Jul 30, 2005, 01:01 PM
QuoteOh well, I had just gotten used to having all items. TH is back. Wish they would at least put a limit on how many items you can disable, so there's still some strategy.
Just play some games with me. I don't disable anything.  
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: phantomd on Jul 30, 2005, 01:34 PM
I don't see any reason to whin about the item-enable/disable feature. You can always make your own room if you do not fucking like others' rooms. If you think in another way round, this feature actually enables better game play.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: DietSnappple on Jul 30, 2005, 02:16 PM
Oh my fucking god.

Good job softnyx! (First time NOT used with sarcasm, from me, at least)
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Tridav on Jul 30, 2005, 03:35 PM
QuoteIf you think in another way round, this feature actually enables better game play.
Hahahahahaha.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Rei on Jul 30, 2005, 04:12 PM
...

Lame.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: -SF- on Jul 30, 2005, 06:46 PM
i just demand a better GUI!















































...and banning all aduka games
...and Softnyx to stop failing  :^_^:
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: UaERuLeS on Jul 30, 2005, 10:59 PM
I think item disabling is better than watching everyone heals or teamtele or watching people use dual+ in aduka games.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: xAdUkARuLeSx on Jul 30, 2005, 11:36 PM
I thik your wrong.  If we heal, then goodie, you just get to kill me with even more damage and you will get more GP then you would have gotton normally w/o me healing, to augment to your "just about", 500,000 GP now?  And dp isnt a bad thing in aduka.  But team tele, yea that is painful.  people use that to ks me instead of save my life...  Btw you're not in Uber?  You are in, "Mad" or something like that.


P.S.  xRoyalChiefx Rules
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Post by: UaERuLeS on Jul 31, 2005, 02:19 AM
Wow you reply really sounded 13yearsh, anyway why do u go off the topic ?
I am in sad guild but i love the guild i made before Uber and you can see my gp in the ranking page you dont have really to ask me.
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Post by: GujuSol on Jul 31, 2005, 07:56 AM
What happened to it?(uber)

I hate aduka games and the people I play with nevet TeamTele to KillSteal.

But I can see how annoying the dual plus in duka games can be.

P.S. I dont know who runs SADtm officially, but you might want to screen who you let in. uae22uae is ruby, but he plays like a metal axe.
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Post by: xAdUkARuLeSx on Jul 31, 2005, 04:16 PM
Thats the only part I dont like about no item locks.  Team tele >.<

QuoteWow you reply really sounded 13yearsh, anyway why do u go off the topic ?
I am in sad guild but i love the guild i made before Uber and you can see my gp in the ranking page you dont have really to ask me.

What topic?  ANd when you say you are in SAD guild, do you mean it is sad, as in it sucks like crap, or the NAME is literally sad?  And, yes I have seen your gp, ty, how can I miss it...  Then again, it cud be some random person who likes to be an imposter to famous ID's, and I'm really talking to someone on GBGL with the skill of a stone hammer.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: kiwibonga on Jul 31, 2005, 05:01 PM
QuoteI'm really talking to someone on GBGL with the skill of a stone hammer.
-.-
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Babiez on Jul 31, 2005, 06:18 PM
FUCKING WOOT!!!!!!

Now I will have more active users on my buddy list who complain about dual+.

Lawl...I think this is going to be great ^^
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Post by: Satoshi on Jul 31, 2005, 08:38 PM
And I demand less scrolling.

Guess we all don't get what we want.
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Post by: UaERuLeS on Jul 31, 2005, 09:50 PM
QuoteWhat happened to it?(uber)

I hate aduka games and the people I play with nevet TeamTele to KillSteal.

But I can see how annoying the dual plus in duka games can be.

P.S. I dont know who runs SADtm officially, but you might want to screen who you let in. uae22uae is ruby, but he plays like a metal axe.
I opened uber for 3 days then i quitted and went back to sad, and the gm of sad is asm3k so dont ask me about guild members or stuff i dont really care.
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Post by: UnTzRemark on Aug 01, 2005, 12:26 AM
Well it's about time. :):  
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Post by: cyberpimpbot on Aug 01, 2005, 01:04 AM
QuoteWhat worries me about the limiting of items, is that I am not sure how the auto-ready will now work.  Currently it auto-readies anyone that comes in after about 5 seconds.  However the players already have their chosen items pre-determined.  What happens if all or some of their pre-determined items may be disabled by the host?  Do they get a chance to now choose a new set of items (wasting time), or do they just get auto-readied without a full complement of items?

I can't see a happy medium here.  I would must prefer having all items on for all games, in order for the auto ready system to continue to work smoothly, and less wastage of time.

And yes when will they GET RID OF THAT DAMN TURN ORDER BASED ON RANK garbage.
hopefully they've thought of this and if you end up with empty slots due to unavailable items, it will pop up the item select window for you when you enter the room...of course, I'm sure there will be problems regardless. :P

I hadn't noticed the turn order by rank issue...I've not been playing a lot lately...question though, how was it determined before?

I actually prefer to go towards the end of the round...gives you plenty of time to figure out your shot, and you can dual without giving up a turn to anyone if you're absolutely last!

finally, if you don't like items off, JUST MAKE YOUR OWN ROOM! no one is forcing you to play with items disabled if you don't want to! sheesh  :<_<:
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Post by: uberbacon on Aug 01, 2005, 01:20 AM
the uber guild was hardcore!
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Post by: GujuSol on Aug 01, 2005, 09:19 AM
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I opened uber for 3 days then i quitted and went back to sad, and the gm of sad is asm3k so dont ask me about guild members or stuff i dont really care.
:-_-: Just asking man, no need to snap at me.
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Post by: -SF- on Aug 01, 2005, 10:53 AM
Well whats done is done (and most people still haven't noticed it) but eventually everyone will find out =/ And suddenly Aduka game is on the RISE again  :wacko:  
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Post by: Eric on Aug 01, 2005, 12:35 PM
Quote[doHTML]<font style='FONT-SIZE: 500px'>WOO!</font>[/doHTML]

I'm so coming back.

DUAL DUAL DUAL <3
Oh noes, GET READY TO BE HAXED! :ph34r:  
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Post by: Rei on Aug 01, 2005, 01:12 PM
QuoteI think item disabling is better than watching everyone heals or teamtele or watching people use dual+ in aduka games.
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: -SF- on Aug 01, 2005, 01:16 PM
Game Freezing still there..
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: Kitty on Aug 01, 2005, 03:32 PM
And the item disabling was implemented as horribly as we all had predicted. Lets say you have.. Dual-wind change-small heal-large heal
You enter a room that has dual only.
If you forget to check the item menu, you will be forced into the game with only a dual, and 4 empty item slots. No notification, nothing.

Lets go mass q&a spam them to fix it. Or take it out all together. I don't care, just if I have to deal with item disabling, I don't want it to be fucked up.
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Post by: TonksLT on Aug 01, 2005, 03:41 PM
I'm too scared to even get on GB.
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Post by: Spaceering on Aug 01, 2005, 03:46 PM
[/QUOTE]
QuoteKitty Posted on Aug 1 2005, 02:32 PM
  And the item disabling was implemented as horribly as we all had predicted. Lets say you have.. Dual-wind change-small heal-large heal
You enter a room that has dual only.
If you forget to check the item menu, you will be forced into the game with only a dual, and 4 empty item slots. No notification, nothing.

Lets go mass q&a spam them to fix it. Or take it out all together. I don't care, just if I have to deal with item disabling, I don't want it to be fucked up. 


thats exactly the way it was when thors hammer was out.  they implement a new system everybody bitches for the old back and thats what you get, the old way.  get over it.  they arent going to come up with a new way of doing things when its much easier to go back to the old way. like they say, its either yes or no, not maybe.  you want a maybe, and its not going to happen.  get back into the habbit of checking your items when entering a room, just like you had to do for however many years you did it in thors hammer :mellow:


Quoteif they simply had the item menu pop up automatically and everyone's time reset everytime the key-holder enabled or disabled a menu the system would be workable IMO


well glad someone like you made it clear, thats a whole different story, and something like that is a GOOD idea.  you should have posted earlier so that i didnt make my self look like a fool  :o:
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Post by: ProfessorPap on Aug 01, 2005, 04:15 PM
no no, i agree with kitty.  due to the way the menu interface now works this is NOT the way it was in TH.  if they simply had the item menu pop up automatically and everyone's time reset everytime the key-holder enabled or disabled a menu the system would be workable IMO.  as it is now, the key can easily screw you without your knowing if they feel like it.  this is not good.  not good at all.

best thing to do is to be a power-user, play with all friends, or be fortunate enough to grab a low key yourself (gee, it has to be about 120 or less these days to get action).  then you'll be fine.  
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Post by: Kitty on Aug 01, 2005, 04:38 PM
On another note, oh my god did they nerf frog ss. With a good hit it does around 180. Also, the attack stat no longer effects it.  I had 29 bunge when testing it, I guess it's even lower without bunge.  Now due to high delay and the worst ss in the game, frog is now rendered totally useless. Kalsiddon has moved up to being the second worst bot, with horrible stats all around, save movement.
Fucking gg softnyx.
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Post by: n00b4LiFeJr on Aug 01, 2005, 04:43 PM
FUCK GIS.

item disabling was a stupid idea in the first place anyway, all items was pretty much the ONLY part I liked about WC.

QuoteFucking gg softnyx
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: ProfessorPap on Aug 01, 2005, 05:13 PM
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Quoteif they simply had the item menu pop up automatically and everyone's time reset everytime the key-holder enabled or disabled a menu the system would be workable IMO


well glad someone like you made it clear, thats a whole different story, and something like that is a GOOD idea.  you should have posted earlier so that i didnt make my self look like a fool  :o:
doh.  sorry, my bad. >.<  :D:

btw, thx very much for participating in the "lonely peeps" thread.  it's great to see you and others on my buddy list actively playing games.  right there for when i need you in the future. =)
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Post by: Satoshi on Aug 01, 2005, 05:15 PM
It's impossible to fucking please everyone, and everyone can agree on that.

What they can do is improve on existing features (such as the item disabling).
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: EatEmAlive on Aug 01, 2005, 08:43 PM
QuoteAnd the item disabling was implemented as horribly as we all had predicted. Lets say you have.. Dual-wind change-small heal-large heal
You enter a room that has dual only.
If you forget to check the item menu, you will be forced into the game with only a dual, and 4 empty item slots. No notification, nothing.
As everyone predicted?  As far as I can see, I was the only one that said this, everyone else was like "Oh goody item disabling, let's party".  Worst thing about this is that lets say you have your pre-determined items set.  You go into a room that doesn't have some/all of your items selected.  This leaves you with empty slots.  You might leave the room without even playing, and then either create your own room, or go into another room.  You now have empty slots since you had gone into the previous room (ie your pre-determined items have now changed).

On another note, I think what they have done this reboot is render bunge practically useless.  I have noticed that even with 32 bunge, the holes made are very small in avatar on.  This in turn affects the attack done too.  Possibly their way of nerfing frog ss, was simply to reduce/eliminate the bunge stat, which in turn affects more than just the frog ss.
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Post by: vollendetII on Aug 01, 2005, 09:12 PM
QuoteOn another note, I think what they have done this reboot is render bunge practically useless. I have noticed that even with 32 bunge, the holes made are very small in avatar on. This in turn affects the attack done too. Possibly their way of nerfing frog ss, was simply to reduce/eliminate the bunge stat, which in turn affects more than just the frog ss.

Haha, you make it sound like there's a whole conspiracy going on.  :P . 32 bunge seems to make a fair sized hole compared to a normal hole. I have since left Gunbound, but unless a major change has been made to bunge stats in the past 4 days, bunging seemed pretty normal to me.
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Post by: Eric on Aug 01, 2005, 09:57 PM
Quotethe uber guild was hardcore!
But you weren't in it... or were you. :o
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Post by: UaERuLeS on Aug 02, 2005, 12:00 AM
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QuoteI think item disabling is better than watching everyone heals or teamtele or watching people use dual+ in aduka games.
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.
Shut up, dont swear.
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Post by: TonksLT on Aug 02, 2005, 12:16 AM
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Quote
QuoteI think item disabling is better than watching everyone heals or teamtele or watching people use dual+ in aduka games.
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.
Shut up, dont swear.
Hm. Do you want me to comment on your little pitiful post?

First off, not everyone thinks dual only games are exactly "pro" games. All Items give diversity to a game. As for the Dual + in Aduka games, those fags deserve it. Aduka games are lame, almost as lame as you are.

Coming to the conclusion....

(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9462/invaderzimgir40ts.jpg)
^You have to listen to Gir man. Gir > You.
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Post by: UaERuLeS on Aug 02, 2005, 12:23 AM
It was my opinion thats all, you dont have to swear or flame am just saying that i didnt like it.
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Post by: vollendetII on Aug 02, 2005, 10:29 AM
Please explain what is wrong with heal or team-tele.
Title: "coming-up update matters"
Post by: UaERuLeS on Aug 02, 2005, 10:39 AM
I just dont like people healing while am not healing or my team does not and it makes the game longer When a guy keeps healing. and about the team tele i dont care much about it and i always enable it in my games even back on GBTh it was eneabled all the time.

*Just an opinion and no use to talk about it anyway since item disabling is already out, so have fun disabling =)*
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Post by: vollendetII on Aug 02, 2005, 10:45 AM
I don't play GB anymore but if one guy keeps healing and you or no one else on your team did not pack any heals, then that is your choice. And if someone wants to use all heals it's their choice as well. It won't do any use to them if they're playing score but, meh.
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Post by: GujuSol on Aug 02, 2005, 12:26 PM
make your  own room, get a few of your homies in it, and start the 10+game winning streaks. ^O^

And UaE, I dont like it when poeple swear either, but that was a bit of a sad post. Put some substance in your argument.

Out look on this is pretty neutral. I like suprises and strategy, and with the famous Dual Dual Dual in solo, all you do now is aim and shoot, and die. Aim and shoot and die, *repeat*

 
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Post by: TonksLT on Aug 02, 2005, 01:05 PM
QuoteIt was my opinion thats all, you dont have to swear or flame am just saying that i didnt like it.
Did you see an actual "swear" word in my post? I don't think so. Unless "fag" is now a "swear word" and people forgot to give me the memo.  
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Post by: xFLiPPeDx on Aug 02, 2005, 02:19 PM
the ability to disable items is out.
its not going to change.
there is no point in continuing this argument.
so.. uhhh... stop?
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Post by: Namtiehxam on Aug 02, 2005, 03:16 PM
Everyone knows you don't post here to talk about Gunbound, but it is all just one big contest to see who bitches the most.

And there are certain clear winners in my eyes.