I feel alone.

[JediKitsune]

Unless I'm using Trico, I pretty much just go with what I feel will work. Perhaps subconsciously, I've figured out the formulas, but it feels like instinct to me.

[Bravodor]

this is true.

The fomulas are valuable in that they can give you a point of reference.
a comfort zone if you will.
There is no distintion between feel and formula, it take alot of work to accurately calculate a shot, while not impossible, it does require alot of math and usually a TI-83+. That takes too long, and delay would screw you.

Using memorized points as reminders then using so called "feel" or estimation to make the fine adjustment, is much more effiecent and usually just as accurate, if not more.

knowing just one point in a formula is the same as taking 1 test shot before a dual, so in a game if you can mentally take that test shot, you have an extra turn.
it adds up, especially in full gear games, where matches are long and damage is low.

[creedo]

A poll was recently posted about this, and I think twice as many people said they use feel, not formula.

Feel is the choice you will automatically use when you are first starting the game, so it's pretty much only natural.

Cbchui says fixed angle is better than fixed power shooting, which basically means feel is more important (most people who use a non-boomer mobile with a  fixed angle don't use formulas to get the amount of power they need, they feel it).  

So do not feel like you're weird, formula users are in the minority.

With all that being said, cbchui developed and uses a formula even though he says it's not the best way to play, and I decided to learn formulas after playing some very good armor players who used the cbchui formula to trash my friend and I.  

I guess what I want to say is that even though feel is great, and even necessary, there's no reason to AVOID formula shooting.  Especially don't listen to anyone who says formula shooting is crap.  It's like saying vanilla ice cream is crap because you prefer chocolate... just different preferences.  I think you should wait to try formulas when you reach a point where you either
a: can't seem to improve your skill level and win rate using feel only
b: are bored of gunbound and want to try something to bring freshness into it (like dissolute has).

Good luck.

[Bravodor]

A poll was recently posted about this, and I think twice as many people said they use feel, not formula.

Feel is the choice you will automatically use when you are first starting the game, so it's pretty much only natural.

Cbchui says fixed angle is better than fixed power shooting, which basically means feel is more important (most people who use a non-boomer mobile with a  fixed angle don't use formulas to get the amount of power they need, they feel it). 

So do not feel like you're weird, formula users are in the minority.

With all that being said, cbchui developed and uses a formula even though he says it's not the best way to play, and I decided to learn formulas after playing some very good armor players who used the cbchui formula to trash my friend and I. 

I guess what I want to say is that even though feel is great, and even necessary, there's no reason to AVOID formula shooting.  Especially don't listen to anyone who says formula shooting is crap.  It's like saying vanilla ice cream is crap because you prefer chocolate... just different preferences.  I think you should wait to try formulas when you reach a point where you either
a: can't seem to improve your skill level and win rate using feel only
b: are bored of gunbound and want to try something to bring freshness into it (like dissolute has).

Good luck.

Exactly.

using a Formula is like having the swirl ice cream.

Choclate and vanilla swirls.

which is better than both by themselves.

[CommunistBus]

Bob taught me guides are evil. I stopped reading them and shot how i felt was right and it made me a lot better.

[creedo]

Maybe half the guides out there are junk

Most people write them because they like to write and want to get other people's approval, not because they are actually good enough to write a useful guide.  A few really want to help people but STILL aren't all that good.  Then there's the sad case of those who are good, but suck at english or writing in general so half of what they're saying is totally missed :/

[masterofme]

Never used a guide, never will, and I think I'm a fairly good player.

[Bravodor]

Start using just 2 angles of the 2.4 system.

1 screen = 60
half = 75

there are quite a few more. but these are what got me started, and I undoubtably use them the most.

trust me on this, I had as much as a 5% increase in win %.

[Dissolute]

Since I started my 2.4 fixed power, I have actuly dropped in win rate....

I dont realy use 2.4 for winning I use it because it is just more fun then the 3k+ games Ive played on Dissolute alone using feel....things get old 2.4 is new and fresh, try it and you will LOVE it

[Zim]

Never played with formula's, because i`m the feel king =)

[MetallicSlug]

The only thing close to formulas I've ever used is when my friend qwazi gave me the power increments (?) at which Trico's shot 2 aligns.  Everything else I learned from experience, especially ultra high angles.  I think it's much better to learn by yourself, rather than from a guide.

[creedo]

We got 2 different things we're talking about here, using formulas and using guides.  There are a bajillion guides out there that don't have any formulas, and you can learn a formula without touching a guide and see how you do with it.

Guides aren't needed really if you just sit down and play a lot, I'd say 95% of the stuff I put into my guides I knew by the time I was pink wand.  So basically 2500+ games and you'll know what you need without a guide.  

Formulas on the other hand ... they made a big boost in my win rate.
I played a bunch of different bots but didn't settle on any, then I heard about and learned the 2.4 formula and tried armor and turtle.
My stats ended up being something like:
Any non-armor, non-turtle mobile: 64-65%
Armor: 75%
Turtle: 72%

And when I started applying the cbchui method to other bots, I found they also improved, I went from a shitty A.sate to a 77% one just because I could aim far shots a little more precisely than your average sate.  To this day my sate is still probably my winningest bot, and I put NO time into learning it at all, but I know how to aim with 2.5 bars and of course how to play delay.  

I dunno what to say about dissolute's win rate dropping except that he may be at a point where he's bored of gunbound, isn't worried about earning GP, and therefore plays anywhere, including sure-lose games.  Also early on it's rough playing with formula because you don't have the wind adjustment factors memorized completely yet, and goofy wind directions can cause you to miscalculate.  But he's having fun and I think that's cool.  It IS fun.

[$niperwolf]

I run purly on instinct for normal shots.  Backshots I use a 2.5 bar formula, and I memorized the uhas for boomer.  Hookshots you need to memorize.  Its just ezy by instinct.

[blarg]

I only shoot on instinct.  Using guides,  calculating angles and power wouldnt be much fun at all.  

[$niperwolf]

Forumlas are good to help you get used to how the mobile fires.  If you use them too much though you will become dependant on them