Ice

Started by zyad, Jun 21, 2004, 09:55 AM

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zyad

Whenever i play a game, i rearely, if ever, see anyone select ice as their main mobile.  According to a gunbound fire survey, it is the least preferred mobile in the game... why is that?

i started using ice a lot recently, and i have been winning the vast majority of my games.  It has high health, it reduces other people's defense (which is really helpful, since almost everone i play has 50 defense), and it has relatively low delay.  I kill boomers and armors with it all the time.  the extra health makes it so i have to be hit at least 2 more times before i die.  it seems to be one of the better bots in the game, but yet almost no one uses it.. it also has a huge angle, so you can get a shot out of almost anywhere....

i just cannot see why more people do not use ice... o_0

GoodLad

add me and u will see an ice player :D .I started using ice and its great.I think alot of people dont use it though because it actually requires some precision and accuracy with shot 2 unlike cake shot 1.Before people used the JD shot 1 because of its great angle and its splash dmg for high angles.Ic is great for that too BUT if u miss by abit thats it no splash dmg like a JD.

masterofme

My guildmate 404Error uses it, and he's good with it. I don't know if he uses it in 1v1s, but in 4v4s, it's great to have at least ONE Ice player going around shooting everyone.  B)  

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Ice
#3
Its probably because of its appearence thats why people lean towards the mechancial bots rather than the organic

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Petroleum

Ice
#4
It's apperance is cute. I was an Ice user back in the days -- now I am starting to use Ice in a few days. It needs hell of a lot of accuracy to get 200+ with shot 2. Anyone want to make a Ice team?

Zim

Ice rules. I used to be an Ice man, but I changed to armor.

I dont know why people dont use it, but its most likely because it involves strategic play. These days people seem to want power power power and melee, where as with Ice you have to think about which weapon you use before you do use it.  
Is this all scamming has come to?


Bravodor

but the ice has pretty good firepower.
a dual 2 shot still deals as much as a dual boomer 2 shot, due to defense lowering.

the defense and health is also pretty good.

Ice owns with dual+, it also has the 2nd largest angle in the game, beat only by boomer.

I use it sometimes in avantar off. its an excellent bot


 
 

 

Papercut

My cousin has been using it a lot lately, and it seems to be working very well for him. It's also a great support bot.
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ShadowSunder

ice is awesome i love it

one game i was uth ing with it and i hit the people everytime..even with the wind change i started nailing the other people it was insane
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MetallicSlug

I've started using it recently.  My original purpose was to just have a high health bot I could use to team teleport (anyone that's played with me knows the horror of me team teleporting ;D), but now I'm starting to find I like it anyway.  It's an excellent team-supporting "utility" bot, with its defense lowering capabilities.

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Exotoy

i use ice but not a lot it is true that ice is good with duel




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creedo

Ice
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I don't think ice's ability to win is the reason people don't use it, though I think its overall usefulness is a bit blah.

I think it's unpopular because it's boring.  The shots all hit directly, none of them do anything special like transform or require special aiming tricks.  The defense weakening... big deal, you see a slightly different red number the next time you shoot.  It doesn't have any cool tricks like raon's shotgunned mines, boomer's backshots, cake's dragging abilities, lightning's angle wrecking, etc.  You just shoot and hit.  I guess you could argue that Armor's shots are pretty boring like that also...  but for some reason armor's shots just look cooler than ice's boring nintendo-like circular ice balls.  

In terms of effectiveness, I can't think of any reasons you might pick ice over armor.  The lack of defense means the HP isn't anything special, he dies probably faster than armor does.  The lack of attack strength means that even if you're gradually lowering the enemy's defense using shot 2's and the SS, you'll end up doing the same damage as a powerful mobile... meaning you could have just picked armor and started doing 450-550 dmg per dual right away instead of wearing the opponent down to inflict that much with ice.  

You could nitpick the details like ice's larger true angle or lower delay, but in the end if a bot's not one of the best in  the game (I don't think anyone puts ice in the top 3), and he also is pretty boring to watch and play, then why pick him...

Armor's SS especially is nice to see.

masterofme

QuoteI don't think ice's ability to win is the reason people don't use it, though I think its overall usefulness is a bit blah.

I think it's unpopular because it's boring.  The shots all hit directly, none of them do anything special like transform or require special aiming tricks.  The defense weakening... big deal, you see a slightly different red number the next time you shoot.  It doesn't have any cool tricks like raon's shotgunned mines, boomer's backshots, cake's dragging abilities, lightning's angle wrecking, etc.  You just shoot and hit.  I guess you could argue that Armor's shots are pretty boring like that also...  but for some reason armor's shots just look cooler than ice's boring nintendo-like circular ice balls.  

In terms of effectiveness, I can't think of any reasons you might pick ice over armor.  The lack of defense means the HP isn't anything special, he dies probably faster than armor does.  The lack of attack strength means that even if you're gradually lowering the enemy's defense using shot 2's and the SS, you'll end up doing the same damage as a powerful mobile... meaning you could have just picked armor and started doing 450-550 dmg per dual right away instead of wearing the opponent down to inflict that much with ice.  

You could nitpick the details like ice's larger true angle or lower delay, but in the end if a bot's not one of the best in  the game (I don't think anyone puts ice in the top 3), and he also is pretty boring to watch and play, then why pick him...

Armor's SS especially is nice to see.
Armor Fanboy.  :lol:

Personally, I think Armor is a bit poopy, although <3 using Armor/Trico tag combo, even if only to make the graveyard armor at the load screen.

I think Ice is more a team bot, than a 1v1 bot, but I do agree that Armor is better, and Ice isn't THAT great.

Zim

I agree armor is better than Ice, but Ice is a very good bot in itself. Whether you find it boring or not is your problem but its bunging and high angling capabilites make it a very good screw up bot, and like somebody else said, its very useful to have an ice weakening the other team throughout the game.
Is this all scamming has come to?


The Gunbound Newb

:\ I find it so easy to pull of backshots and high angles with Ice. I started using it and now Im attached  :rolleyes:  
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