Figured out the formula for the new bots

[Demonchaos77]

BF 2 (using 30 sd's) use 2.6 power. (2.65 for  74-66, 2.7 from 66-60)

frog (using 30 sd's) use 2 power.

for the frog: shot 1 rolls <<<< and shot 2 rolls >>. there fore u must add 2 of subtract 2 angles to make up for the 3 seconds it takes to roll.

ex. say the  creedo's chart says to add 3 angles. your new angle is 84. since you are shooting someone >>> with shot 2, then u must add 2 more angles.

Works for me...

[XeeD]

Based on 2 games, i'd say that Kalsiddon is heavier than armor, and is 2.55/2.6 fixed power. I think by adding 0.1 power gives the rockets some leeway in order for them to hit max damage. Im not sure about windchart but i would gamble on something based on fixed power for the other bots. Yea...and as you suggest adding power for further angles.

[phantomd]

The frog is like Boomer. If you want some high angle shit, do 76 3.2 for 1 screen. (That's boomer anyway)

[Ransternz]

Frog = boomer, Don = slightly heavier than trico. Worked this out with Mishigne during the Korean beta.

[DietSnappple]

Noice. We already have some formulas for these bots!

[Eric]

And heres a very good way to shoot close range will kelso.



It shows that it did 740 damage... This is because how long the shot has to open depends on how much power you used, so I used no power and it opened right in his face, doing whore damage.

Note: Don't do this with negative angles, it doesn't open. Also don't sg it if you are like at point blank range, the shot will go through without opening. And also don't sg them where there isn't land behind them, the shots like go through mobiles before it opens.

[Ransternz]

Yeah, the shot opens as soon as it's vertical velocity is in the negatives, so you either have to high angle or face-plant.

[creedo]

jesus, that's broken

If it did just a little bit more damage, or if thor is out or whatever, you could kill with just shot 2 then dual.

[Auga]

I need to learn orangefoot, it opens 50% mid way?

[Ransternz]

I need to learn orangefoot, it opens 50% mid way?

It opens when it starts falling - so softnyx say.

[PleaseShutUp]

Kalsiddon

UHA
Angle 70 Power 3.2   = 1 screen
Angle 80 Power 3.15 = 1/2 screen

2.6(Not Effective Only use when u dont hav angles)
Angle 75 power 2.6   = 1/2 screen
Angle 60 Power 2.65 = 1 screen

[PSU]

[NewOldThought]

Thanks for the formulas, they're a big help.
Does anyone know whether Kalsiddon's tracer is lighter than the missile(the 1 before it opens) or is it the same weight? If it isn't, its gonna be really fun trying to compensate for hi angles in a strong wind...

[achala]

Theres no difference, its the same weight

[Tenki]

maybe it's just me but i think kalsiddon and bigfoot match shotsss ^^; or at least, their shots hit around the same area anyway

on level ground, i always changed 4-5 angles for frog

[creedo]

The tracer comes out after the missile split and is just decoration showing you where the shot is landing. It travels on the exact same path the big bomb would go if it never split open. Without it, you wouldn't really see clearly how you missed, you'd just see a rain of missiles flailing around near the target.