full money suit

[seordcast]

ive heard that ppl wearing full money suit will earn more money

so what is full money suit?

[darkmagnolia]

Full money suit is 50 star

Secksy version = easy to pick up girls $368k

Ugly mutatedness $135k

POPULARITY (Star shaped icon, unit: %)
The ability to fascinate the crowd with your best costume in order to gain more prize (ie. Gold) which effects the amount of money and the penalty you will be given.

[seordcast]

o, so the more stars the better it is?

btw, will the money suit allows u to earn more money in the no avatar zones?

[darkmagnolia]

Yes, only the star (money) avatar works in avatar off zones.

[tweedles]

Secksy version = easy to pick up girls $368k

Not if you look like everyone else.  <_<  

[Drknecro]

i got le secksi version... but i pick up guys or maybe its just my rank....

[el6uapo]

Im  my opinion, they totally  ruined av off with the money on...

1) They remove ice tag and implement money suit, which allows the same money to be earned

2) People have now migrated into av off to hide from the real suits that will pwn them
   a) The majority of these people like to say "JAJAJAJAJ"

3) People with no skill are in the av off zones... instead of hiding behind their stat
\/\/hore suits, they come and say, "Money is all everything lah"

[creedo]

Im my opinion, they totally ruined av off with the money on...

heh I dunno why but I just get this twitchy urge to argue against this common statement.

1. How much money other people are making are not your problem, or even your business.  Why should their happiness at being rich bother you?

2. Like they were all playing avatar on before and NOT getting pwned?
Please.  Nobody without skills and/or a clone suit can survive in avatar on.  These people you're referring to were in zone 11/12 all along.
They didn't all suddenly decide they liked avatar off better.  I don't know anyone who made a serious effort (before the change) to try to play avatar on with just a money suit for the purpose of earning gold.  
I don't think anyone did.
2a: If mexicans and peruvians bother you, mute them or maybe broaden your horizons so that their way of laughing doesn't affect you any more than english laughing.

3.  How is having easy-to-beat opponents with no skill a problem?  And why would no-skill people avoid avatar off zones before the money suit change?  It's still the only place to get a fair game - in the mind of less-skilled players, that means it's the only place they feel they'll stand a chance once they're too highly ranked to play in noob zones.  Therefore they are attracted to avatar off even without the gold adjustment.

[krumpp]

best way to make gold

[Shaft]

The popularity stats did spoil the REAL theme the avatar off servers were created for

1)To make money for \/\/|-|ORE stat suits.
2)To show originality of avatar
3)To play without the pros and cons of avatar

The first one was greatly and i mean GREATLY increased, and yeah, 80% are the ones in this catergory. The second one is extremely rare. the last one is pretty common. Though like more than 6 months ago, the avatar off zone was some place for avatar eye candy. Very nice avatar combinations that cost up to 300K but damn lousy mix of stats. I miss those moments and i know they aint coming back. This is what i played GB in the Avatar off servers, what i thought to be my GB life commitment, to have the nicest looking avatar in Avatar off. Now, i dont even see them anymore. I'm one of the few non-money suit people that stay true to the theme the avatar off servers were created for in the first place. And fine, you can criticize whatever you want, but i'm staying true to my ideal, and thats what is keeping me from quitting this damned game, and whats making me think about it over and over. I am sure this is what el6uapo meant. Correct me if i'm wrong, kind sir.

[tweedles]

Don't we all have money suits, somewhere, hidden in the closet? I used it to get cash for my other suits. To be honest i don't really notice what i'm wearing really often anymore, i'm just there for the games and practise, and people. But i guess i'm okay with money suits, as long as people don't shove it in my face that "MOENY IS THE BEST"

And yes, a money suit can be helpful if you just started. If you're going to play avatar off, and you are eyeing that nice piece of equipment, a money suit will decrease tremendously the amount of time you take to buy it. It just freaks you out after awhile seeing all those other people who look like you. Agents Mun and Nee.

[HeadFace]

I completely see your point by saying they ruined avatar off, but if you think abouit it, the money suits, have abosolutely no chance in avatar on.  Thus I came up with the idea to remove the double metal axe+ server and add a server that only stats are money stats and money stats wont work in regular avatar off.

[CommunistBus]

I never liked the idea of stars on in avatar off.

It's avatar OFF meaning no avatar stats! Popularity is a stat and thus should not be on. I don't care how much other people are getting owned in the stat on zones, or how much they love gold. The zone should deliver what it advertises. The av off zones should be pure not defiled with people playing for stats. The worst part is, once they get enough to buy their stat suit theyre just going to go to avatar on. They don't play on avatar off becuase they believe in playing for fun.

I don't know how long everyone here has been playing, but before they enabled the star, the avatar off zone was a much better place for fun. People on the stat zones use stats becuase they want to win. They play to win and nothing else. They are generaly rude and assholes. (I know this becuase I used to play stats on for a long time) Avatar off was a better place in that you could go and find people who play for fun and not for wins. When they enabled the star stat all the assholes realized, WOW WE CAN PLAY ON THIS ZONE AND NOT GET OWNED, THEN ONCE WE GET OUR STAT SUITS GO PLAY ON THE AVATAR ON SERVERS. Ever since then avatar off has been full of these assholes. They completely ruined the experience and it has never been the same.

Dear softnyx,
           nt

[creedo]

shaf: There are some things I disagree with, hope you read through them.

1. "gunbound's avatar off servers were originally created to make money for whore suits, have nice looking avatar combos, and to play without the pros and cons of avatar"

-The third reason isn't really a point worth mentioning, it just equates to 'avatar off servers were created to play with avatars turned off'.  So we'll focus on points 1 and 2.

I don't think you can say for sure why softnyx made the servers, you give 'making nice looking outfits' and 'money whoring' as the 2 primary reasons.  Maybe that was NOT softnyx' intention.  Maybe reason number 1 was: "So newbies can get a fair game" or "so people who like to play for fun and do stunts can do so without being bullied to death in 2 turns".  My belief (which I guess isn't any more valid than yours but here it is anyway) is that they were probably thinking of mitigating the effects of the major stats - attack and defense.  Popularity was the last stat on their mind.  

Or maybe it IS for the reasons you mention - if so, reason number 1 (money whoring) is still there in spades, and reason number 2 is also still there (as much as some people claim they don't see it anymore, I see PLENTY of nice looking outfits still, outfits that are strictly for appearances.  http://media.virtuafighter.com/media/gb/TheGang.jpg ...)

2. I'm one of the few non-money suit people that stay true to the theme the avatar off servers were created for in the first place.

Again, presumptuous since you don't know what's in the softnyx programmer's heads... but since you bring it up, you DID put saving for stat suits as (one of) the top reason(s) softnyx created the zone!  Therefore, by your logic,  the vast majority of people in this zone ARE staying true to 'softnyx intentions'.

Honestly though, whatever happens to the game is by definition 'softnyx' intentions', including the change in popularity.  They wouldn't have made the change or allowed it to persist if it went against their intentions.
Anyhow, who cares about 'intentions'.  Someone tried to argue with me the other day that you shouldn't shotgun because softnyx didn't intend the game to be played that way... he cited the high angle bonuses as proof of this intention.  Right or wrong, I'm going to shotgun anyway.

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3. This is what i played GB in the Avatar off servers, what i thought to be my GB life commitment, to have the nicest looking avatar in Avatar off

Shrug, to me that's an... unusual reason to play gunbound.  It seems to be missing the point.  A popular sentiment on these forums is 'play for fun, not for avatar/collecting items'.  It's not a dressup game, it's a shooting game.  

And anyhow, nothing at all stops you from following your goal.  In fact the popularity change helps you achieve that goal, since a lot of for-looks-only avatars come with stars attached.  

Communist:
The zone should deliver what it advertises. The av off zones should be pure not defiled with people playing for stats.

If you follow the assumption that it was created to give a fair game, with all the mobiles balanced exactly as softnyx intended them to be, then it IS delivering what it advertises.  When I came to avatar off, my first thought was "this server is going to give me a place where I won't lose because of inferior equipment, where damage given and received will be normal, and where nobody can claim the game isn't fair."  I got exactly what I was expecting.

I don't think your complaint is really about ONE stat being allowed when the zone advertises ZERO stats allowed.  We all know that one stat is absolutely not a factor in who wins or loses, it doesn't affect gameplay at all.  It is only 'technically' a stat, but in reality it might as well not exist, it just affects visuals a little bit, not gameplay.

Your complaint seems to be centered around "other people are playing here to take advantage of a specific stat".  I hate to sound like a broken record but... really, who gives a shit what other people are playing for?

Other people's reason for playing are not your concern or business!
Other people's reason for playing are not your concern or business!
Other people's reason for playing are not your concern or business!

If I want to go to the local grocery store and use it just to sit at a bench and read a paper instead of buying groceries, get over it and do your shopping.  If I want to go to the movie theater and buy candy from the concession stand and then leave, get over it and go see your movie.  If I want to go to the local gym to flirt with the girl at the desk instead of coming to work out, get over it and do your workout.

It's not your problem!

PS: The worst part is, once they get enough to buy their stat suit theyre just going to go to avatar on.

How can this possibly be bad?  The 'assholes' are leaving your favorite zone and never coming back, according to your theory.  There are fresh assholes, sure, but at least the old ones aren't lingering around and ruining your games.

[kimchinrice]

THE STAR ON UR AVYS