dting is a true pro virtue

Started by chinakoneko, Jun 07, 2004, 11:27 PM

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creedo

Posting the picture proves I've played and won a number of games, nothing more.
Short of playing someone in the game it's the easiest proof I can come up with that I'm not some nub who's played for a week and decided he knows it all.
 
I guess I could just post anybody's picture and pretend to be some blue wand I don't even know, if THAT is what you're trying to say :P



Dude you're almost diamond.  Find me on gunbound and let's rack up some GP.

Griever

how do we exactly take the fun out of this game? yeah...we dt when we need to...i'm not going to shoot cross map at a target half hidden and hard for me to hit just so that people can feel its fair...that we're dueling 1v1 even though its a 4v4 team game.  i'm going to hit the person that i can be sure of hitting...part of having fun is winning, losing all the time because of someone on your team that doesn't understand the concept of teamwork is frustrating...

you are entitled to your own views, and i'm not gonna call you noob just because you think dting is lame...if you don't like getting dted and dying fast...don't play solo...and don't play against overly stacked teams.  simple as that...

don't tell me you've never asked for help or had teammates help you when you came face to face with a dragon or knight.  
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mauvecow

Quotewow, i'm not asking for a wave of haters here.

gosh.

yeah, but from what i read okay.
i play gb for fun, whatever.
i'll dt if i need to save someone.
but i still consider it lame to dt right from start to beginning.
call me a noob all you want.
Well, no offense, but when your argument boils down to "TEAMWORK IS LAME", it's really hard not to give a good solid whack. Anyone above an average level of skill can see right through this nonsense, know what I mean? If you don't like that aspect of the game, you should probably just stay away from solo and tag, because that's basically how you win those games.

By the way, if you've ever been the highest ranking target in one of those games, you'll know that you get double teamed. Every. Single. Game. Often first thing. It is part of the game, whether you or I like it or not.

Shaft

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I dont really care though. If i can dt, i'll ask my teammate for permission. If its my friend, they prolly wont care. I hate dt but its not a pro thing to do. Sometimes, i HATE to be too ruthless and dt to see what that newbie is going to do. Sometimes, if its needed, then we'll all do it. What I'm trying to say is, that guy who said you played with noobs too much is an asshat. He could just say that "its teamwork" or like"you got knight. We had to kill you before you could kill any of us" But saying you're a noob right in your face was just too rude.

Note: I mean DT is not a pro thing and i hate it but i do not reject the fact that i do it.

cr0nik

i think dt'ing is just the normal way to play the game.  if you want 1v1's, go play 1v1.  sure, i play the game for fun.  i find planning a team strategy to get out of bad situations is fun when my brain is fired up.  of course, it is annoying to get killed first, but i just deal with it and have fun chatting or dropping bombs strategically.  maybe i get too much into it...

besides, it does require skill to dt properly.  your team has to be able to hit the enemy precisely from wherever their positions are, and it does require a cooperative team.

killabunny

Well, they had a good reason to DT you. If they did that to me on an Aduka, then there would be definetely something wrong with that. Unfortunately, your turn was last, and they decided to take the liberty to quickly take you out before you had a chance to cause any serious damage. Better luck next time.


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Dissolute

You all should know whats going to happen when you walk into a solo, metamine side A room...

Your going to get DTed by boomers/armours..... Get over it...

Coming from experience you can be eny rank and accomplish the same things. Just like you can be a group of chick accounts doing the same thing.....will they be as good at it? probly not unless they made a second account.

But its a part of the game, not against enyrules just there to play selfishly...
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Fankee

QuotePosting the picture proves I've played and won a number of games, nothing more.
Short of playing someone in the game it's the easiest proof I can come up with that I'm not some nub who's played for a week and decided he knows it all.
 
I guess I could just post anybody's picture and pretend to be some blue wand I don't even know, if THAT is what you're trying to say :P
haha... no i'm not saying you're posting someone else's pic... just that rank does not necessarily mean pro at all... because i've been playing more 1v1s lately and at least 6 out of 10 wands that come in and actually start the game are noobs... but anyway, i guess you're probably not a noob cos i read your boomer guide~~

yeah find me for games, i'm mostly in zone 11... and yeah i dunno why GB updates my rank like once every 3 days... so i should be slightly higher now anywayz  :D  

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Quotewow, i'm not asking for a wave of haters here.

gosh.

yeah, but from what i read okay.
i play gb for fun, whatever.
i'll dt if i need to save someone.
but i still consider it lame to dt right from start to beginning.
call me a noob all you want.

to the question of whether i died before i got to my first turn: yes.
to the "i highly doubt he said you must play with noobs all the time": yes, he did say it.

now i invite you to stomp me more into the ground about how i'm a noob.
no offense, but it's people like you guys that really ruin the fun out of most of this game for me.
"OMG, YOU STUPID NOOB!"

-_-
The opinion of DT'ing ultimately depends on why you play.

Take me: There are times I go into a game and feel like winning (mostly when I am with a bunch of strangers or the opposing team is full of people we don't know) then I will DT to get the win.

AMong friends, normally I won't, but I have been known to.  

There are times when I play solely for fun (ask anyone who's seen me TK an unknown teammate who royally sucks, or telefall and miss) and then there are times when I go into "full on must win mode" and play serious. Just depends on who I am with and my mood at the time.

In all though, consider these:

Digging and hiding = strategy. I played a game with an old friend of mine from my old guild, and he had me beat, no question, however, it was SS death on cave. He was on an island to the left with Aduka/Grub and I was on the right side of the middle part, with Raon/Bigfoot.  One hit and I would have been done, so I began tunneling from the right to left, creating a hole behind me so Grub shot #2 could not get me. Eventually I made it to the other side, and with a couple raon shot #1's, bunged him, winning when he had like full life.

KS'ing - Strategy - though I do not consider it KS'ing unless the person who has been hurting him all along is right after your go.  I do it to save teamamtes from death, or if it's score, to move the game along.

Double Teaming is a strategy as well.  Yes it can be unfair IF you take it personal, which I have been known to do (once I was DT'd like 6 games in a row and just left lol) but ultimately it is part of the game. There are no rules against any of thses things, and my feeling is that if you cannot handle the strategies, even though you may not agree with them, you should be playing 1vs1's (like someone else said) or just take a break, sit back, and re-evalute of Gunbound is giving you the same enjoyment enough to keep you playing.

Those are my thoughts.

Exotoy

i also think DT is agreat strategy but hate it being done 2 me




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Zim

DT`ing is a strategy. People who fail to see this are as bad as the people who think heals should be taken out of the game. Talk about making the game boring  :rolleyes:  
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chinakoneko

wah.

i mean, i'm not complaining (is this the point i'm getting across here? because i was asking for opinions, not bash-age on me to "get over it"). i never said i wouldn't dt- just in given situations. i just wanted to know what the heck other people thought about it.

speaking of playing solo, i don't usually. it's usually a score game nine out of ten times. i just happened to be in one that day.

griever: i can honestly say i've never asked for help, even when i'm dying. xD not personally, but i've had teammates who ask me "need help" and i'll say yes. :P does that count? xP and no, i don't remember asking for help when i face a knight or dragon either. >_> basically i know that i'll die first (given that it's someone who knows how to use the mobile correctly o_O), but i'm sure going to give that special mobile a hell of a lot of damage before i die. someone else can finish him off. xP

mauvecow: teamwork isn't lame. >_> i just have a different view on it. you can link the way i see dt to like... the way you fight a war. i mean, does everyone on one side jump on just one guy on the other side? you don't usually see like fifty guys beating up on one guy, right? it's usually one on one hand-to-hand combat.


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ErrorSol

QuoteI see DT this way.

Love to do it, hate to have it done to me.
Thats my line.

shotgunkelly

DT is definitely part of a winning team strategy and almost all pros realize that.  Which eventually leads to the conclusion (whether it's wrong or not) that if you don't DT, you must be a "noob" or "play with noobs".  I'm not saying you are, but that's just the natural reaction of most pros when you complain that DT is lame.

You must realize that a 4v4 team game is not equivalent to 1v1 1v1 1v1 1v1... unless the initial circumstances dictate it, which is rare.

I frequently (but not often enough) play with a pro boomer wand.  In one game on Sea of Hero, he spawned next to a mammoth who could not hit him.  On the 2nd turn, the pro ignored the mammoth and turned his attention all the way across the map to DT an a.sate who was having the upper hand on another teammate boomer.  They killed that a.sate and he ended up killing the unskilled mammoth too, giving us a big lead and an eventual win.  If he had not DT'ed, it would have been a closer fight, or maybe even a loss because the other team players were very good too.

I hate being DT'ed too but the difference is that I appreciate the team strategy behind it, so you won't hear any whining out of me.

JirotheHero

I dont like it when I don't get a turn in these games. It pisses me off. I joined the game because i want a turn to shoot, not to freaking idle while they all gang up on me and not have a single turn.  


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