dting is a true pro virtue

[chinakoneko]

right, so. i was playing against two wands and a blue dragon today, and i random'd knight.

guess what they all screamed the minute they saw my mobile?
"KILL THE KNIGHT FIRST! KILL THE KNIGHT!"

bam, bam, bam. my turn was last, so i was dead even before i could shoot once. and the game was on solo. they then proceeded to triple team each one of my teammates in turn, until they were all dead.

when i asked them why the hell they liked to team up on one person (and myself, i despise dting, and consider it unfair/a pussy's way out), the sapphire wand said, "what do you mean? dt is a pro thing. ask any pro, they all do it. you can't win quick unless you dt. you must play with noobs all the time."

hm? opinions please.

[masterofme]

I see DT this way.

Love to do it, hate to have it done to me.

[eraddeus]

I think DTing is great, and a pretty smart thing to do.

[Shinryu]

If you're going to be on a team, act as a team...

[CommunistBus]

If youre playing to win DT is simply the best way to do it. It's quick and efficent assuming you are able to hit the enemy. (Actualy, in score I'd say everyone fight 1 on 1 is better. As is the same in jewel obviously hehe)

If you're paying with friends I'd say don't DT unless someone asks for help.

Ganging up on a knight is nothing new or uncommon. Knight and dragon have some serious firepower and it's smart to get them out of the picture asap.

[tr1ippy]

right, so. i was playing against two wands and a blue dragon today, and i random'd knight.

guess what they all screamed the minute they saw my mobile?
"KILL THE KNIGHT FIRST! KILL THE KNIGHT!"

bam, bam, bam. my turn was last, so i was dead even before i could shoot once. and the game was on solo. they then proceeded to triple team each one of my teammates in turn, until they were all dead.

when i asked them why the hell they liked to team up on one person (and myself, i despise dting, and consider it unfair/a pussy's way out), the sapphire wand said, "what do you mean? dt is a pro thing. ask any pro, they all do it. you can't win quick unless you dt. you must play with noobs all the time."

hm? opinions please.

ok like MOM said ..

Love to do it, hate to have it done to me.

but i highly doubt he said "you must play with noobs all the time"
anyways it's strategic, would you want to be killed by a knight when you and two other friends have an able shot at it?

and also like Commy said .. it's totally stupid if you're playing for fun and not to win ..

[andrewcleung]

I agree on masterofme's

Love to do it, hate to have it done to me.

I saw a full health dragon being slayed by a single boomer dual shot 2 with thor to death b4 his first turn starts.
The worst is in tag, u sometimes get "half life" dragon or knight. They still count towards ur winning percentage. This is so unfair. Getting only half of the life and easy to be killed.

[creedo]

They're absolutely right, double team is a pro thing.  Complaining about double team is definitely a noob thing.  You (should) outgrow it eventually.  First, if you're wondering whether this is a pro talking to you:



I'd actually be red wand but I wasted a lot of GP on my 2nd/3rd accts.
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If I wanted to play one on one matches, then I'd join a 1v1 room.  If I want to have multiple targets, I join 2v2, 3v3, or 4v4.  The team modes in this game were NOT meant to boil down to nothing but boring individual 1on1 matches.  Would you expect "no dt" in a first person shooter, a multiplayer rpg, etc?  Why expect it here?  Even the american National Basketball Association got rid of its silly rule about man-to-man defense.

The number one reason people complain about double teaming?  They're not going to get a turn and not getting turns = not fun.  Guess what though? HOW MUCH FUN YOU'RE HAVING IS NOT IMPORTANT TO ME  

I don't play with the idea that everyone, including my enemies, has as much fun as possible and gets a fair game with plenty of turns.  It's a free game and there's no limit to how many times you can retry, so if you're fucked in one game, you can play another one.  Over the long haul, you WILL get one or more turns in 95% of your games.  Hell, it's probably closer to 99% unless you're a masochist who plays only vs megapros in solo mode.

That brings me to another point I love to drag out whenever possible:
SOLO IS A STUPID MODE.  Don't play it if you don't want to have a game completely without turns.  Score gives you the fairness you're looking for and adds strategy and depth to the game.  Don't let any so-called pros tell you solo is lame, slow, blah blah blah.  They're just greedy for fast gold and GP because leveling up beyond wand rank is a very slow process.

[Griever]

there isn't anything wrong with dting...and anyone who tells you that dting is lame is simply pissed because he's gonna die faster.  yeah...in solo and tag, it sucks to die first and play slots for 10, 15 minutes, but if you play those kinds of games, get use to it.  

i remember a game i played a few days ago, where it was 3v3, me and 2 of my friends versus random people....they all went random and managed to get TWO dragons and a sate on cave, i was stuck with trico, if i went 1v1 with the dragon next to me...i would have died....the only way is to dt and kill them fast...and we killed one dragon before it even got its turn...meh...sad...but we play this game for fun and to win...and soon after, the other dragon fell and we actually won that game...

think of it this way....if the other team got a knight or dragon, would you and your team want to leave it there as long as possible? or would you want to kill it fast so it can't start dishing out the heavy damage.

and andrew, getting knight or dragon is tag is MUCH better,  especially if you're playing a tag game with heals on, even if you're not, having it in tag means that you can suprise your opponent and suddenly deal major damage when he's not expecting it...i'd much rather have dragon/knight in tag than out in view...as then people will kill you first...

[Fankee]

They're absolutely right, double team is a pro thing.  Complaining about double team is definitely a noob thing.  You (should) outgrow it eventually.  First, if you're wondering whether this is a pro talking to you:



I'd actually be red wand but I wasted a lot of GP on my 2nd/3rd accts.
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and by posting that picture means you are a pro?? that's hilarious...

anywayz, about dting, it happens in solo, if u dont like it, dont play solo~ that is the only way to win, unless the other team sucks like shit.

[killabunny]

What did you expect them to do, leave one guy standing up against your knight alone? That would be giving away a free win. Wands, yes, but not invincible. They have to stop you from winning as a result of your knight. Gunbound isn't about, honor, it's about teamwork. Let me repeat.

Teamwork

Teamwork

Teamwork

(and myself, i despise dting, and consider it unfair/a pussy's way out)

Pussy way? It's the logical way. Say you're with a bunch of friends(If you have any)and a tiger attacks one of them. Let's say he's your best friend. Are you gonna fuck off and let him get slaughtered? I hope not. This happens all the time in the real world.

Double teaming also benefits the victim. While they DT you, they are allowing your teammates time to wear them out. Once you're dead, the enemies should have sustained at least some damage. They'll also have to readjust their shots. Meanwhile, your teammates have their shot worked out and can quickly take them down.

People who consider DT gay don't get the point of the game. To prevent myself from turning this into a flame, I'll stop here.

[mauvecow]

Let me guess, it was Meta Mine too. Never, ever play those games: They are invariably stacked to hell. (In fact, play on maps which DON'T benefit people who memorize every square inch of the map, sigh...)

While I think the lethality level is a wee bit high (Killing someone before their first turn just shouldn't be possible, sorry.), there is nothing wrong with doubleteaming. In fact, it's the only damned form of teamwork this game has. Think about that and let it sink in for a bit until you realize how shallow it is. But, given that it is all this game has, it's basically the primary method of play in non-solo games.

However, anyone who says it is in any way newbish/childish/whatever is completely out of their mind and lives in their own little fantasy world where team games exist so everyone can play their own individual 1v1s. Yeah, okay, whatever. Just think about it until you understand that this is not exactly the most logical method of thinking about the game.

I still prefer tag to score, but only if heals are on. Lethality is a mite ridiculous the way Softnyx has it, unfortunately. (This argument doesn't count for avatar on, though, really.) Score is just too damned melee oriented... For once I'd like to shoot beyond more than half a screen in those games. :P

[Administrator]

THis has been said already, but yes. Double teaming is part of the game.  It's a team game, and if that means teaming up on someone to kill them quicker, thus trying to gain an advantage in the game, then go for it.   If it get's done to you, and you do it all the time, don't complain.

[eVoW4rl0rD]

when i asked them why the hell they liked to team up on one person (and myself, i despise dting, and consider it unfair/a pussy's way out), the sapphire wand said, "what do you mean? dt is a pro thing. ask any pro, they all do it. you can't win quick unless you dt. you must play with noobs all the time."

hm? opinions please.

You got knight.No questions asked,you get DTed.

As for the pro part,its just that noobs don't care about helping out their team and only help to kill as they want the cash,and pros dt more as it wins the game faster.You consider DTing unfair,play 1v1s or just quit gunbound.

[chinakoneko]

wow, i'm not asking for a wave of haters here.

gosh.

yeah, but from what i read okay.
i play gb for fun, whatever.
i'll dt if i need to save someone.
but i still consider it lame to dt right from start to beginning.
call me a noob all you want.

to the question of whether i died before i got to my first turn: yes.
to the "i highly doubt he said you must play with noobs all the time": yes, he did say it.

now i invite you to stomp me more into the ground about how i'm a noob.
no offense, but it's people like you guys that really ruin the fun out of most of this game for me.
"OMG, YOU STUPID NOOB!"

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